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<blockquote data-quote="WayneF" data-source="post: 482862" data-attributes="member: 12496"><p>I have never seen the Photos app, but what you are describing is a lossless editor... like Lightroom for example, like any raw editor. I do think Photos is a lossless editor (a raw editor, and it does JPG too, in the same way). Raw editors do lossless edits, meaning, they always preserve the original and they just add a list of the actual edit operations, the steps to take which will be performed anytime you Output the edited image. The edit is NOT performed until you output it to another JPG file (the lossless editor will show it as edited... but it is not yet edited.) Edits make a LIST of the edit steps requested, but the edit does not happen until OUTPUT to new file copy. The original image data is NEVER modified.</p><p></p><p>This is the new modern way. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> The advantage of lossless editors is that any output of any new edit does NOT have to suffer from undoing the shifted tones of previous edits... but instead it merely just edits the original data ONE TIME with the new final edit list. The edit steps are Only done one time when output to a new file copy. At any and every Output, but the edit is applied only that one time.</p><p></p><p>When we do edit more times, all we actually do is to edit the edit list. Then we do the actual edit only ONE TIME at output. We don't shift image tones back and forth all over the place. Only ONE set of new added JPG artifacts too. Preserving the original is a big advantage. We can even uncrop it. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Bottom line of your problem:</p><p></p><p>But other programs do not know how to do that edit list, so all other programs ever see is the original unedited version. So what needs to be done is to use Photos to Output an edited JPG copy for other programs to use, so they can see it too. Simply do a SAVE AS to a new JPG file name, for other programs to use.</p><p></p><p>It would be the same issue in ANY lossless editor (the good ones, raw editors), so it is no reason to switch editors.</p><p></p><p>Your screenshot is one form of output, but you get the original large size if you simply output (Save As) a JPG file, and use that edited JPG copy in other programs.</p><p></p><p>Then when you might want additional edits later, DISCARD that first JPG copy you output (it is very expendable), and make your edit (maybe just a new crop or resample for some other purpose), and then Output the new edit into a new replacement JPG copy for other programs to see. The pristine original image remains as your archived master copy. The edit list is saved too, but you can revise it at any time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WayneF, post: 482862, member: 12496"] I have never seen the Photos app, but what you are describing is a lossless editor... like Lightroom for example, like any raw editor. I do think Photos is a lossless editor (a raw editor, and it does JPG too, in the same way). Raw editors do lossless edits, meaning, they always preserve the original and they just add a list of the actual edit operations, the steps to take which will be performed anytime you Output the edited image. The edit is NOT performed until you output it to another JPG file (the lossless editor will show it as edited... but it is not yet edited.) Edits make a LIST of the edit steps requested, but the edit does not happen until OUTPUT to new file copy. The original image data is NEVER modified. This is the new modern way. :) The advantage of lossless editors is that any output of any new edit does NOT have to suffer from undoing the shifted tones of previous edits... but instead it merely just edits the original data ONE TIME with the new final edit list. The edit steps are Only done one time when output to a new file copy. At any and every Output, but the edit is applied only that one time. When we do edit more times, all we actually do is to edit the edit list. Then we do the actual edit only ONE TIME at output. We don't shift image tones back and forth all over the place. Only ONE set of new added JPG artifacts too. Preserving the original is a big advantage. We can even uncrop it. :) Bottom line of your problem: But other programs do not know how to do that edit list, so all other programs ever see is the original unedited version. So what needs to be done is to use Photos to Output an edited JPG copy for other programs to use, so they can see it too. Simply do a SAVE AS to a new JPG file name, for other programs to use. It would be the same issue in ANY lossless editor (the good ones, raw editors), so it is no reason to switch editors. Your screenshot is one form of output, but you get the original large size if you simply output (Save As) a JPG file, and use that edited JPG copy in other programs. Then when you might want additional edits later, DISCARD that first JPG copy you output (it is very expendable), and make your edit (maybe just a new crop or resample for some other purpose), and then Output the new edit into a new replacement JPG copy for other programs to see. The pristine original image remains as your archived master copy. The edit list is saved too, but you can revise it at any time. [/QUOTE]
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