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<blockquote data-quote="spb_stan" data-source="post: 643619" data-attributes="member: 43545"><p>For many, a camera a device to capture images, and for some, it is a raw material collector from which they make an image for viewing by others. Two very different views of the visual arts and they are going to be used. For the former, it is primarily a memory enhancement activity while for the latter, it is an original visual experience not a reminder of what was before. </p><p>Both are perfectly valid uses for cameras and often both uses are intended by the same photographer at different times.</p><p>So in regards to the capture style, JPG is almost perfect, it does not need post processing to serve its purpose, if fast, and takes up less memory. Phones nowadays are a fine substitute for a dedicated camera. Last winter we took a trip to 3 new countries for both my GF and myself and I took a D800 and some lenses, up to the carry-on weight limit, plus my Note 4 phone. Total count was about 2000 shots with the phone and 1500 with the DSLR which represented the ratio of art/or potentially printed images to vacation memory reminders. Some of the mountains we hiked in deep snow were at 14,000ft and and -24 degrees and the phone worked flawlessly but the D800 batteries had a battery life of only minutes. I carried a batch of batteries knowing that the battery chemistry really slows down in the cold. </p><p>Most my shooting is with a DSLR and depending on the application or final use, I shoot with RAW and JPG and use the jpg if possible for things like events where the organizers want files in their hands quickly but for portraits, fashion, outdoor or studio multiple light shoots, RAW is the standard. JPG is very good, much better than needed in most cases unless serious exposure problems exit since they are not very flexible files. Metering options are getting so good that more and more, JPGs are pretty darn well exposed. </p><p>So a long comment just to say both RAW and JPG have very good reasons to recommend them. Neither one is going away because the do different jobs.</p><p>RAW files for the D850 are around 100Mb each at full uncompressed mode which means some RAW fans will switch to JPG when there is no compelling reason to store such a large file. I got the chance to use a D850 last week and looking at the rear screen and on my monitor, I have the distinct impression that unless badly set in manual mode these files will not need many if any post processing. The colors and detail are the best I have seen, regardless of format. Is this possibly what the speaker at the club might have meant, that rendering engines are getting so that more ends of the spectrum application can use JPG SOOC?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spb_stan, post: 643619, member: 43545"] For many, a camera a device to capture images, and for some, it is a raw material collector from which they make an image for viewing by others. Two very different views of the visual arts and they are going to be used. For the former, it is primarily a memory enhancement activity while for the latter, it is an original visual experience not a reminder of what was before. Both are perfectly valid uses for cameras and often both uses are intended by the same photographer at different times. So in regards to the capture style, JPG is almost perfect, it does not need post processing to serve its purpose, if fast, and takes up less memory. Phones nowadays are a fine substitute for a dedicated camera. Last winter we took a trip to 3 new countries for both my GF and myself and I took a D800 and some lenses, up to the carry-on weight limit, plus my Note 4 phone. Total count was about 2000 shots with the phone and 1500 with the DSLR which represented the ratio of art/or potentially printed images to vacation memory reminders. Some of the mountains we hiked in deep snow were at 14,000ft and and -24 degrees and the phone worked flawlessly but the D800 batteries had a battery life of only minutes. I carried a batch of batteries knowing that the battery chemistry really slows down in the cold. Most my shooting is with a DSLR and depending on the application or final use, I shoot with RAW and JPG and use the jpg if possible for things like events where the organizers want files in their hands quickly but for portraits, fashion, outdoor or studio multiple light shoots, RAW is the standard. JPG is very good, much better than needed in most cases unless serious exposure problems exit since they are not very flexible files. Metering options are getting so good that more and more, JPGs are pretty darn well exposed. So a long comment just to say both RAW and JPG have very good reasons to recommend them. Neither one is going away because the do different jobs. RAW files for the D850 are around 100Mb each at full uncompressed mode which means some RAW fans will switch to JPG when there is no compelling reason to store such a large file. I got the chance to use a D850 last week and looking at the rear screen and on my monitor, I have the distinct impression that unless badly set in manual mode these files will not need many if any post processing. The colors and detail are the best I have seen, regardless of format. Is this possibly what the speaker at the club might have meant, that rendering engines are getting so that more ends of the spectrum application can use JPG SOOC? [/QUOTE]
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