Oh, i totally understand where everyone is coming from, and i do appreciate the advise, as a woodworker, it was a lesson i learned, that i wish i had known from the start, thankfully i was able to sell off each past generation as i upgraded, so it wasn't as painful a lesson as it could have been.
Still to a new woodworker, it would be a hard sell to convince them to buy that $3000 table saw when they see them for less then $500 at home depot
I think that with this as with that, you start with what you can get when you really need it, and work your way up to the good stuff as money permits, unless your fortunate enough to be rich.
So lets change directions on this and say, what are the most important things to look for in a tripod? looks like ball head is better then pan and tilt, but is the pistol grip worth it? just seems to me that moving something built into the head is a better idea then pushing around on your camera to move it, but im a novice to this, so that is why i ask.
right now my need for a tripod isn't extreme, i can wait to get one. might get a monopod in the mean time for greater stability when shooting, but still the speed when you need to set up quick (will take recommendations for those as well) don't want to waist the money, mostly it will be outdoor shooting, very little macro, and have zero intention of setting up a studio any time soon, usually what i do is, take a picture of something i will paint later.