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<blockquote data-quote="AC016" data-source="post: 87375" data-attributes="member: 9619">Last night, i used my D80 with the 18-55 lens from my D5100 - D5100 battery was about to die.&nbsp; Went out on Aperture mode, F11 to start with, went down to around F6.3 by the end of the night.&nbsp; ISO was 400-640 &lt;have to check my pics to give you an accurate number&gt; and used normal flash function and AF-A.&nbsp; The AF illuminator helps in dark situations or else your lens will hunt, so good idea to turn it on.&nbsp; With the built in flash, you have to be quite close to the subject.&nbsp; Don't mean to rub it in, but my pics turned out fine.&nbsp; I would have taken my 50 out with me - 1.8 - but i thought the 18-55 would be more flexible.&nbsp; Sure, you can have a fast lens, but that also means you you have to boost up your ISO - grainy photos depending on camera and how high you go in ISO.&nbsp; You also have to hold the camera rock steady if there is no VR on the lens.&nbsp; From 5ft away, you should be able to get great shots with your camera and built in&nbsp; flash.&nbsp; ANy further away, you risk the flash being eaten up by the night and you will get dark photos.&nbsp; It can be done, do not give up.&nbsp; Keep experimenting with your camera, it is very capable.[ATTACH]19987[/ATTACH][ATTACH]19988[/ATTACH][ATTACH]19989[/ATTACH][ATTACH]19990[/ATTACH][ATTACH]19991[/ATTACH][ATTACH]19992[/ATTACH][ATTACH]19993[/ATTACH][ATTACH]19994[/ATTACH][ATTACH]19995[/ATTACH][ATTACH]19996[/ATTACH][ATTACH]19997[/ATTACH][ATTACH]19998[/ATTACH]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AC016, post: 87375, member: 9619"] Last night, i used my D80 with the 18-55 lens from my D5100 - D5100 battery was about to die. Went out on Aperture mode, F11 to start with, went down to around F6.3 by the end of the night. ISO was 400-640 <have to check my pics to give you an accurate number> and used normal flash function and AF-A. The AF illuminator helps in dark situations or else your lens will hunt, so good idea to turn it on. With the built in flash, you have to be quite close to the subject. Don't mean to rub it in, but my pics turned out fine. I would have taken my 50 out with me - 1.8 - but i thought the 18-55 would be more flexible. Sure, you can have a fast lens, but that also means you you have to boost up your ISO - grainy photos depending on camera and how high you go in ISO. You also have to hold the camera rock steady if there is no VR on the lens. From 5ft away, you should be able to get great shots with your camera and built in flash. ANy further away, you risk the flash being eaten up by the night and you will get dark photos. It can be done, do not give up. Keep experimenting with your camera, it is very capable. [ATTACH=CONFIG]19987[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]19988[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]19989[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]19990[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]19991[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]19992[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]19993[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]19994[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]19995[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]19996[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]19997[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]19998[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]

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