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<blockquote data-quote="Fortkentdad" data-source="post: 601477" data-attributes="member: 24285"><p>Of course - only the one in TTl would give out the pre-flash. Hence "getting to 'M' " .... </p><p></p><p>Recommended option would be to go manual using the on board commander mode to trigger the one and then make adjustments based on output desired (best done with light meter or failing that trial and errors) If I could get both to work on CLS then I could control the output of that group from the camera (have to play with how they fit into that softbox to get both of the CLS sensors out of the box and only the lighthead in the box. </p><p> </p><p>And if both were on triggers then that systems method of TTL might work, but your saying 'maybe' as there are different system and you are not speaking to this. That of course would take two triggers which costs. If I go Younguo that could happen - their TTL triggers are about $60 each for 622n. </p><p></p><p>But if I go the manual I'm back to needing that light meter and learning to use it - not a bad thing, just another thing to buy and learn. ..... but again, if I go cheaper units it is still less. And even if I go with Nikon's CLS and go manual then it is a good idea. </p><p></p><p>I have to remember that the TTL pre-flash metering by the commander unit is done by 'group' (e.g. A, B, or potentially C if available via an mounted flash or Nikon CLS Commander unit) You are recommending one flash per group, hence two or maybe three flashes. I tend to think of a 'group' of flashes as more than one but I understand what you are saying. I've been using three flashes under Nikon's CLS, four if you count the pop-up as controller. So again, if I want to control more than a couple of flashes in TTL that is another reason to get radio control system (and even then it may be hit and miss. </p><p></p><p>RE: Ratio etc</p><p></p><p>Been wrapping my head around the ratio and balance with lighting. Ambient vs flash lighting and the positioning of the lights. Lots to learn here. Learning how adjusting shutter and adjusting aperture works differently with the lights on. The duration of the flash is another factor, through in HSS into the mix and it gets even more complicated. Reading how P.Wizard does HSS differently than others was one of the attractions of P-Wiz but probably not going that way, ... yet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fortkentdad, post: 601477, member: 24285"] Of course - only the one in TTl would give out the pre-flash. Hence "getting to 'M' " .... Recommended option would be to go manual using the on board commander mode to trigger the one and then make adjustments based on output desired (best done with light meter or failing that trial and errors) If I could get both to work on CLS then I could control the output of that group from the camera (have to play with how they fit into that softbox to get both of the CLS sensors out of the box and only the lighthead in the box. And if both were on triggers then that systems method of TTL might work, but your saying 'maybe' as there are different system and you are not speaking to this. That of course would take two triggers which costs. If I go Younguo that could happen - their TTL triggers are about $60 each for 622n. But if I go the manual I'm back to needing that light meter and learning to use it - not a bad thing, just another thing to buy and learn. ..... but again, if I go cheaper units it is still less. And even if I go with Nikon's CLS and go manual then it is a good idea. I have to remember that the TTL pre-flash metering by the commander unit is done by 'group' (e.g. A, B, or potentially C if available via an mounted flash or Nikon CLS Commander unit) You are recommending one flash per group, hence two or maybe three flashes. I tend to think of a 'group' of flashes as more than one but I understand what you are saying. I've been using three flashes under Nikon's CLS, four if you count the pop-up as controller. So again, if I want to control more than a couple of flashes in TTL that is another reason to get radio control system (and even then it may be hit and miss. RE: Ratio etc Been wrapping my head around the ratio and balance with lighting. Ambient vs flash lighting and the positioning of the lights. Lots to learn here. Learning how adjusting shutter and adjusting aperture works differently with the lights on. The duration of the flash is another factor, through in HSS into the mix and it gets even more complicated. Reading how P.Wizard does HSS differently than others was one of the attractions of P-Wiz but probably not going that way, ... yet. [/QUOTE]
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