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<blockquote data-quote="WayneF" data-source="post: 259723" data-attributes="member: 12496">If you have a remote shutter release, you can use yourself as the subject.&nbsp; <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; Typically, men can use a bit higher ratio than women and kids.&nbsp; Speaking of color work, reserve any 2.0 ratio for the men, esp the grizzled old men.&nbsp; <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />I just turn on the lights one at a time, and aim the meter directly at the one being metered and set (from the subjects position of course, for main and fill).&nbsp;&nbsp; Meter technically should aim at the camera, so this is not the final value, but it will set the ratio accurately and best.&nbsp; Then turn on both main and fill, and meter aimed at the camera for the exposure value.With equal lights at subject, both lights on will meter about 1 stop more than one (2x).&nbsp; With a ratio, the sum will be more like 1/3 or 2/3 stop more than one (depending on ratio).&nbsp; So a bit of experience will show you to initially set the main a bit less than your final target exposure.Hair light or background light does not affect the exposure, so those&nbsp; are just metered to be relative to the main.&nbsp; Background is metered at&nbsp; the background surface, which is its subject.If your meter can meter in tenth stops, then there is a big advantage of using tenths.&nbsp; For example, maybe the main meters f/7.1. Then you want fill to be -1.5 stops less. How much is that?&nbsp; No one knows.&nbsp; <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; But if you learn to use tenth stops, then the answer is immediately obvious in our heads.&nbsp;&nbsp; f/5.6 plus 7/10 stop, less 1.5 stop, is obviously f/4 plus 2/10 stop.&nbsp; No small deal to know this.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WayneF, post: 259723, member: 12496"] If you have a remote shutter release, you can use yourself as the subject. :) Typically, men can use a bit higher ratio than women and kids. Speaking of color work, reserve any 2.0 ratio for the men, esp the grizzled old men. :) I just turn on the lights one at a time, and aim the meter directly at the one being metered and set (from the subjects position of course, for main and fill). Meter technically should aim at the camera, so this is not the final value, but it will set the ratio accurately and best. Then turn on both main and fill, and meter aimed at the camera for the exposure value. With equal lights at subject, both lights on will meter about 1 stop more than one (2x). With a ratio, the sum will be more like 1/3 or 2/3 stop more than one (depending on ratio). So a bit of experience will show you to initially set the main a bit less than your final target exposure. Hair light or background light does not affect the exposure, so those are just metered to be relative to the main. Background is metered at the background surface, which is its subject. If your meter can meter in tenth stops, then there is a big advantage of using tenths. For example, maybe the main meters f/7.1. Then you want fill to be -1.5 stops less. How much is that? No one knows. :) But if you learn to use tenth stops, then the answer is immediately obvious in our heads. f/5.6 plus 7/10 stop, less 1.5 stop, is obviously f/4 plus 2/10 stop. No small deal to know this. [/QUOTE]

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