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<blockquote data-quote="WayneF" data-source="post: 456192" data-attributes="member: 12496"><p>Welcome to the forum, and thanks for posting the image, so we can see what you see. Unfortunately, there is no Exif data in the image you posted, and Exif data tells a lot, ISO, aperture, shutter speed... But we can guess.</p><p></p><p>You are using quite high ISO and/or slow shutter speed, which eagerly lets in all the orange incandescent light, and it is orange. That table lamp is really lighting up the room. We look at our pictures, but we have to learn to actually see them (to examine details that are there to be seen). Notice the guy in the red shirt. His face is very bright on his right side - the lamp is of course doing that, intensely bright (at the very high ISO), and then the flash is only adding a little fill. And the others too, to some extent, that lamp is registering well in the very high ISO. So you have a tremendous amount of ambient light, caused by automation turning Auto ISO sky high. Probably don't even need the flash here. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>If you are using camera Auto mode, it turns on Auto ISO, and no way to turn it off. Or otherwise maybe you turned it on if in the other modes.</p><p></p><p>The little internal flash is tiny, and ISO 200 or 400 does help it, but it doesn't need ISO 2400 or 3200, etc.</p><p></p><p>The high ISO is allowing normal regular exposures from incandescent, regardless if you use the flash or not. Then adding the TTL flash adds another normal flash exposure. Two proper exposures added together can be 2x exposure, or overexposure. Backing the flash off is one way, but backing the ISO off (the ambient) is another way.</p><p></p><p>Adjusting Flash Compensation is the way we control the automatic TTL flash exposure. Kudos for understanding and doing that part.. so many of us simply just won't bother to learn it. So I think there is great hope. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>As a first step, to see a similar indoor shot, try one time to setting Auto ISO off. You cannot turn it off in Auto mode, so try camera A or M mode (then you can). The TTL flash is still automatic in M mode, and M mode is often used indoors, so we can make the ambient be insignificant (because we are using flash instead).</p><p></p><p>Set maybe ISO 400, which should allow the little flash to do f/8 at up to ten feet. So f/5.6 should work well then, at less than maximum flash power. A mode will always use 1/60 second shutter (speaking of flash indoors). If in M mode, faster shutter like 1/125 or 1/200 will shut more of the ambient (without affecting the flash exposure), but the important thing at first is cranking ISO down to reasonable levels. </p><p></p><p>Then when and if TTL is not just right, flash compensation tweaks it in.</p><p></p><p>The flash reflections in the glass cabinet are avoided by shooting at a slightly different angle, not straight into the cabinet, so the reflections don't come back to the camera lens.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WayneF, post: 456192, member: 12496"] Welcome to the forum, and thanks for posting the image, so we can see what you see. Unfortunately, there is no Exif data in the image you posted, and Exif data tells a lot, ISO, aperture, shutter speed... But we can guess. You are using quite high ISO and/or slow shutter speed, which eagerly lets in all the orange incandescent light, and it is orange. That table lamp is really lighting up the room. We look at our pictures, but we have to learn to actually see them (to examine details that are there to be seen). Notice the guy in the red shirt. His face is very bright on his right side - the lamp is of course doing that, intensely bright (at the very high ISO), and then the flash is only adding a little fill. And the others too, to some extent, that lamp is registering well in the very high ISO. So you have a tremendous amount of ambient light, caused by automation turning Auto ISO sky high. Probably don't even need the flash here. :) If you are using camera Auto mode, it turns on Auto ISO, and no way to turn it off. Or otherwise maybe you turned it on if in the other modes. The little internal flash is tiny, and ISO 200 or 400 does help it, but it doesn't need ISO 2400 or 3200, etc. The high ISO is allowing normal regular exposures from incandescent, regardless if you use the flash or not. Then adding the TTL flash adds another normal flash exposure. Two proper exposures added together can be 2x exposure, or overexposure. Backing the flash off is one way, but backing the ISO off (the ambient) is another way. Adjusting Flash Compensation is the way we control the automatic TTL flash exposure. Kudos for understanding and doing that part.. so many of us simply just won't bother to learn it. So I think there is great hope. :) As a first step, to see a similar indoor shot, try one time to setting Auto ISO off. You cannot turn it off in Auto mode, so try camera A or M mode (then you can). The TTL flash is still automatic in M mode, and M mode is often used indoors, so we can make the ambient be insignificant (because we are using flash instead). Set maybe ISO 400, which should allow the little flash to do f/8 at up to ten feet. So f/5.6 should work well then, at less than maximum flash power. A mode will always use 1/60 second shutter (speaking of flash indoors). If in M mode, faster shutter like 1/125 or 1/200 will shut more of the ambient (without affecting the flash exposure), but the important thing at first is cranking ISO down to reasonable levels. Then when and if TTL is not just right, flash compensation tweaks it in. The flash reflections in the glass cabinet are avoided by shooting at a slightly different angle, not straight into the cabinet, so the reflections don't come back to the camera lens. [/QUOTE]
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