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<blockquote data-quote="ohkphoto" data-source="post: 4727" data-attributes="member: 1573"><p>I agree that it's tough to define and I've always thought that it wasn't really good photography . . . kind of weird stuff, until I started reading this book about portrait photography by Roswell Angier ("Train Your Gaze"). He analyzes a lot of photographs which at first glance you would think are "crap" (at least I did), but then you begin to see that the "crap" is pretty deliberate --things like "rhyme" and "marginalization" --some of it is staged and some of it documentary (the "decisive moment"). Perhaps it has to do with vision and intentionally and deliberately translating it into a photograph (and letting the rest of the world try to guess what your message is, because the world loves a puzzle and mystery). How do we see the world we photograph and how do we share that with the viewers of our photos.</p><p> </p><p>I don't think it always has to be "dark and morose" and I certainly think it can still be good photography by all standards --I think there are "photographers" out there who explain poor technique as "artistic vision". </p><p> </p><p>Regarding your photos, I think it's interesting that this photographer picked out the "dark" photos. So he saw something in them, maybe. Did he explain why he considered them "fine art". But a better question is maybe, what did you see that made you want to make that photo? I think it would be really fun to analyze the second one with the man in the subway. Possibly all kinds of "hidden meanings" </p><p> </p><p>I sure don't have the answer, but I do feel that all of us as photographers are drawn to photograph certain things, and it's a way of sharing ourselves with the world. </p><p> </p><p>Great discussion, Fen!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ohkphoto, post: 4727, member: 1573"] I agree that it's tough to define and I've always thought that it wasn't really good photography . . . kind of weird stuff, until I started reading this book about portrait photography by Roswell Angier ("Train Your Gaze"). He analyzes a lot of photographs which at first glance you would think are "crap" (at least I did), but then you begin to see that the "crap" is pretty deliberate --things like "rhyme" and "marginalization" --some of it is staged and some of it documentary (the "decisive moment"). Perhaps it has to do with vision and intentionally and deliberately translating it into a photograph (and letting the rest of the world try to guess what your message is, because the world loves a puzzle and mystery). How do we see the world we photograph and how do we share that with the viewers of our photos. I don't think it always has to be "dark and morose" and I certainly think it can still be good photography by all standards --I think there are "photographers" out there who explain poor technique as "artistic vision". Regarding your photos, I think it's interesting that this photographer picked out the "dark" photos. So he saw something in them, maybe. Did he explain why he considered them "fine art". But a better question is maybe, what did you see that made you want to make that photo? I think it would be really fun to analyze the second one with the man in the subway. Possibly all kinds of "hidden meanings" I sure don't have the answer, but I do feel that all of us as photographers are drawn to photograph certain things, and it's a way of sharing ourselves with the world. Great discussion, Fen! [/QUOTE]
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