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First Wedding In June (Continued from Flashes Forum)
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<blockquote data-quote="rocketman122" data-source="post: 457279" data-attributes="member: 14443"><p>ok first thing, that church is very nice so do the best you can to do nice pictures for the church as well. maybe get an enlargement done on some kappa and a simple elegant thing aluminum frame around. just get it done in a place where they use high quality kappa boards because low quality ones will warp in time.</p><p></p><p>2nd, I myself love using high iso if I need to. I would go right up to 6400 if I need to but since I do have flashes I would shoot at 3200 and use the flashes to add extra light so I can get my shutter up higher</p><p></p><p>1/60 is fine for wide shots all over when people/couple arent moving. like an atmosphere shot. you could probably go down to 1/30 if you have good technique. but for the ceremony when the preist does his hand gestures, no less than 1/160. and that sets you up with not enough exposure in your shots from the images you posted above. f/4 is "ok" and you can even go down to 2.8 for specific wide shots @<a href="http://nikonites.com/member-14793-the.html" target="_blank">the</a> 24 end. but youre on the edge of "good" and not in the "great" work results. </p><p></p><p>you dont have any other flashes besides the SB910? if no is the answer, then thats what you have to deal with. if you dont plan on getting any, then again, one SB910 is all you have so you deal with what you have. I dont think youll even have time to buy the flashes and get them in time. maybe from adorama or amazon can get it to you in time but you really should have external flashes and triggers in your gear arsenal if you plan on doing this more. the idea with flash is to make it look as natural as possible and mix ambient light with flash. you dont have enough ambient( ur using lowish iso) so in pictures like 5 and 6 the difference is clear how flash affects the results. and here it looks quite nice although under exposed. but heres the thing. youre shooting them at 1/60 which might not be fast enough to freeze movement and if you up the flash power the flash impression will be stronger and youll get results that look like flashed images. in those two images the non flashed image looks flat actually. so flash is good to add but you need to balance it with the ambient. once youll shoot at 1/160 there will be less ambient light and the flash will work harder to get the proper exposure by shooting even more light</p><p></p><p>another thing to consider is that one 910 flash has a hard job to do. theres a tall ceiling and its pumping out a lot of light. if you up the iso, recycle will be faster since it doesnt need to dump so much light and it will look more pleasing. ifg you would have used external flashes then each flash wouldnt have to work so hard to get you the proper exposure and recyling would be fast and you can shoot faster. im certain there might be parts of the ceremony that you will shoot one shot after the other and the SB910 wont be fast enough to recycle and you may miss a shot. so be aware. and pace your shots. under stress you may fire non stop wanting to get the shot and u wont notice the flash isnt ready. </p><p></p><p>if you do plan on getting flashes/slaves then we can talk strategically where to place the flashes (u dont need light stands here) but if not then nothing else I can add besides that youre going to have to make a decision on high high iso youre willing to go. im not afraid of high iso. in film times photographers shot with iso 3200BW and 800/1600 and it looked grainy as shet and todays camera can do 6400 and look great if you make sure to overexpose 1/2 stop. youre WB is also off in the last one. a bit warm. btw, be aware when you use flash the WB does not stay neautral. it will nudge to the warm as well. not many pay attention to this but its true. I dont know how profficient you are and how fast you work or how you work udner stress. </p><p></p><p>shoot a lot and move around a lot. shoot high low wide tele. perspective from the guests POV from the side, if hell let you from the preists POV to the people with couple and to the couple by themselves. </p><p>thats all I can offer at this time. ask questions if youd like</p><p></p><p>dont mind the picture. cant remove it for some reason</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rocketman122, post: 457279, member: 14443"] ok first thing, that church is very nice so do the best you can to do nice pictures for the church as well. maybe get an enlargement done on some kappa and a simple elegant thing aluminum frame around. just get it done in a place where they use high quality kappa boards because low quality ones will warp in time. 2nd, I myself love using high iso if I need to. I would go right up to 6400 if I need to but since I do have flashes I would shoot at 3200 and use the flashes to add extra light so I can get my shutter up higher 1/60 is fine for wide shots all over when people/couple arent moving. like an atmosphere shot. you could probably go down to 1/30 if you have good technique. but for the ceremony when the preist does his hand gestures, no less than 1/160. and that sets you up with not enough exposure in your shots from the images you posted above. f/4 is "ok" and you can even go down to 2.8 for specific wide shots @[URL="http://nikonites.com/member-14793-the.html"]the[/URL] 24 end. but youre on the edge of "good" and not in the "great" work results. you dont have any other flashes besides the SB910? if no is the answer, then thats what you have to deal with. if you dont plan on getting any, then again, one SB910 is all you have so you deal with what you have. I dont think youll even have time to buy the flashes and get them in time. maybe from adorama or amazon can get it to you in time but you really should have external flashes and triggers in your gear arsenal if you plan on doing this more. the idea with flash is to make it look as natural as possible and mix ambient light with flash. you dont have enough ambient( ur using lowish iso) so in pictures like 5 and 6 the difference is clear how flash affects the results. and here it looks quite nice although under exposed. but heres the thing. youre shooting them at 1/60 which might not be fast enough to freeze movement and if you up the flash power the flash impression will be stronger and youll get results that look like flashed images. in those two images the non flashed image looks flat actually. so flash is good to add but you need to balance it with the ambient. once youll shoot at 1/160 there will be less ambient light and the flash will work harder to get the proper exposure by shooting even more light another thing to consider is that one 910 flash has a hard job to do. theres a tall ceiling and its pumping out a lot of light. if you up the iso, recycle will be faster since it doesnt need to dump so much light and it will look more pleasing. ifg you would have used external flashes then each flash wouldnt have to work so hard to get you the proper exposure and recyling would be fast and you can shoot faster. im certain there might be parts of the ceremony that you will shoot one shot after the other and the SB910 wont be fast enough to recycle and you may miss a shot. so be aware. and pace your shots. under stress you may fire non stop wanting to get the shot and u wont notice the flash isnt ready. if you do plan on getting flashes/slaves then we can talk strategically where to place the flashes (u dont need light stands here) but if not then nothing else I can add besides that youre going to have to make a decision on high high iso youre willing to go. im not afraid of high iso. in film times photographers shot with iso 3200BW and 800/1600 and it looked grainy as shet and todays camera can do 6400 and look great if you make sure to overexpose 1/2 stop. youre WB is also off in the last one. a bit warm. btw, be aware when you use flash the WB does not stay neautral. it will nudge to the warm as well. not many pay attention to this but its true. I dont know how profficient you are and how fast you work or how you work udner stress. shoot a lot and move around a lot. shoot high low wide tele. perspective from the guests POV from the side, if hell let you from the preists POV to the people with couple and to the couple by themselves. thats all I can offer at this time. ask questions if youd like dont mind the picture. cant remove it for some reason [/QUOTE]
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