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<blockquote data-quote="rocketman122" data-source="post: 408674" data-attributes="member: 14443"><p>regarding your gear, youre pretty much set with the lenses and cameras. 2 d750..sweet.</p><p></p><p>theres a few things we need to discuss</p><p>-low ceiling which is perfect for on camera bounce flash but not ideal to use off camera flashes on stands. this is far different than venues like they showed in the fstoppers video I linked previously and usually I shoot in those kind. not barns but very high ceilings and dj lights that are everywhere, like in the pics</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]135897[/ATTACH][ATTACH]135898[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>they look more like discoteques then a venue youre going to shoot. there is a great ambient feel that gives a great dance atmosphere. both were shot at the end of the wedding when everyone went. </p><p></p><p>I did shoot a wedding that had a very low ceiling similar to your setup. it was dark and I used 3 flashes on stands and shot them towards the center at 1/32 power. problem is this, youre going to be shooting people that are all over and no matter how best you try, youll get images of people dancing with the flash creeping in from the back. not much you can do but depending on the height of the flashes, either stand on your toes and angle the lens down a bit or bend your knees and let the flash hide behind them when you shoot. </p><p></p><p>im guessing the top two are where the food and dancing will take place? if there is a DJ and he brings light then that will help with adding a dance feel to the pictures, otherwise it will look quite bland with flash and the boring light I see they have in the images. you can add gels to the off camera flashes that will paint the area while the flash on your camera will light their faces so you can create a dance feel. </p><p></p><p>personally, Id play it by ear. if the dj has some lights then setup two flashes on opposing sides to make a square and gel them with a light yellow orange or red. ne on each flash. use your on camera flash bounced straight up with white card out. </p><p></p><p>flashes. only problem I see is an on camera flash that youre missing. yes the 383 is a decent flash but not fast enough. you have the xcsource transmitter connected to the pc sync port of the flash to fire, correct? Id suggest you get 1-2 more of the transmitter for backup. you never know. personally, I would not feel confident going into this with the 383. it has its place but not in the fast paced wedding world. </p><p></p><p>I only use nikon flashes on the camera. SB800 SB700 or an SB900. I feel they are the best with exposure accuracy. all due considering, no flash is great and I think MFR still have a LONG way to go with accuracy but thats another topic. youll have to adjust as you see fit. if the flash is too strong, I dont close the aperture, I adjust the exposure from the flash because I want the aperture to let in enough ambient light. my goal is always to blend ambient with flash. keep the ambient by keeping the aperture the same but lower the flash power to match the ambient (as much as you can) and ligt the subject properly.</p><p></p><p>you can go with a yongnuo 565 568 or you might consider one of shanny's flashes like this</p><p><a href="http://thephotogadget.com/products/shanny-sn600n-18000s-i-ttl-gn60-flash-nikon" target="_blank">Shanny SN600N 1/8000S i-TTL GN60 Flash for Nikon | ThePhotoGadget.com</a></p><p>the flagship model for nikon will be available around april.</p><p></p><p>for me though, on camera, only nikon, off camera, doesnt matter. the 560 are fast enough. </p><p></p><p>church, I have no idea what the rules will be so you will need to ask. take a monopod wiht you just in case you have low lighting and you can only shoot from the back. either the 70-200 on the DX or use the D750 and bump up the iso. I have no idea, youll need to verify. </p><p></p><p>not sure how comfortable you are but I shoot normally at no less than iso 3200 indoors and the D3s can do 8000 pretty decently. these are dancing pictures and not exactly so important. you might have a situation where theyre going to turn off all lights and youll be shooting in the dark and only with the dj lights there. be prepared to have the flashes setup JIC and put them on the side ready for use. dont worry about remote power adjustments. the venue is so small, you can simply walk over and adjust it. dont know anything about those slaves so will leave it to you to decide if theyre reliable.</p><p></p><p>stands. I use 13' stands. seems the 10' cheetah will do the job for this venue. just be aware of your surrounding and possible kids running around and knocking them over or getting hurt from them. we dont need a law suite. the 13' one I have are simply heavier but not often I use all of the 13'. </p><p></p><p>do you have a bracket to mount flash and umbrella on the stands? you can find nice inexpensive ones on ebay for about $8 each shipped. </p><p>these are a PITA to deal with </p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/B-Type-Flash-Hot-Shoe-Adapter-Trigger-Umbrella-Holder-Swivel-Light-Stand-Bracket-/371097304925?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56671f7f5d" target="_blank">B Type Flash Hot Shoe Adapter Trigger Umbrella Holder Swivel Light Stand Bracket | eBay</a></p><p>hard to tighten the flash mount with the small dial.</p><p></p><p>I always have 3 of these in my bag</p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Shoe-Mount-Flash-Bracket-Umbrella-Holder-for-Canon-Nikon-Metz-Sony-HVL-F60M-/271332271126?pt=AU_Cameras_Photographic_Accessories&hash=item3f2ca9e416" target="_blank">Hot Shoe Mount Flash Bracket Umbrella Holder for Canon Nikon Metz Sony HVL F60M | eBay</a></p><p>ive had various kind and these are very comfrotable to use. just make sure and tighten the tilt knob well. it wont come undone but feels like it wont tighten. not an issue</p><p></p><p>what kind of stud does your light stands have at the top? </p><p></p><p>I would also recommend a few of these to always have in your bag</p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Flash-Stand-Holder-Mount-Base-Hot-Shoe-for-Flashgun-D-/191465729020?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c943f2bfc" target="_blank">Flash Stand Holder Mount Base Hot Shoe for Flashgun D | eBay</a></p><p>very useful for placing a flash anywhere you might need. </p><p></p><p>you will need your umbrellas for family formals. my only concern is that I noticed in the US, they sometimes do big groups of people and that will be a challenge to light , pose and setup</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rocketman122, post: 408674, member: 14443"] regarding your gear, youre pretty much set with the lenses and cameras. 2 d750..sweet. theres a few things we need to discuss -low ceiling which is perfect for on camera bounce flash but not ideal to use off camera flashes on stands. this is far different than venues like they showed in the fstoppers video I linked previously and usually I shoot in those kind. not barns but very high ceilings and dj lights that are everywhere, like in the pics [ATTACH=CONFIG]135897._xfImport[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]135898._xfImport[/ATTACH] they look more like discoteques then a venue youre going to shoot. there is a great ambient feel that gives a great dance atmosphere. both were shot at the end of the wedding when everyone went. I did shoot a wedding that had a very low ceiling similar to your setup. it was dark and I used 3 flashes on stands and shot them towards the center at 1/32 power. problem is this, youre going to be shooting people that are all over and no matter how best you try, youll get images of people dancing with the flash creeping in from the back. not much you can do but depending on the height of the flashes, either stand on your toes and angle the lens down a bit or bend your knees and let the flash hide behind them when you shoot. im guessing the top two are where the food and dancing will take place? if there is a DJ and he brings light then that will help with adding a dance feel to the pictures, otherwise it will look quite bland with flash and the boring light I see they have in the images. you can add gels to the off camera flashes that will paint the area while the flash on your camera will light their faces so you can create a dance feel. personally, Id play it by ear. if the dj has some lights then setup two flashes on opposing sides to make a square and gel them with a light yellow orange or red. ne on each flash. use your on camera flash bounced straight up with white card out. flashes. only problem I see is an on camera flash that youre missing. yes the 383 is a decent flash but not fast enough. you have the xcsource transmitter connected to the pc sync port of the flash to fire, correct? Id suggest you get 1-2 more of the transmitter for backup. you never know. personally, I would not feel confident going into this with the 383. it has its place but not in the fast paced wedding world. I only use nikon flashes on the camera. SB800 SB700 or an SB900. I feel they are the best with exposure accuracy. all due considering, no flash is great and I think MFR still have a LONG way to go with accuracy but thats another topic. youll have to adjust as you see fit. if the flash is too strong, I dont close the aperture, I adjust the exposure from the flash because I want the aperture to let in enough ambient light. my goal is always to blend ambient with flash. keep the ambient by keeping the aperture the same but lower the flash power to match the ambient (as much as you can) and ligt the subject properly. you can go with a yongnuo 565 568 or you might consider one of shanny's flashes like this [url=http://thephotogadget.com/products/shanny-sn600n-18000s-i-ttl-gn60-flash-nikon]Shanny SN600N 1/8000S i-TTL GN60 Flash for Nikon | ThePhotoGadget.com[/url] the flagship model for nikon will be available around april. for me though, on camera, only nikon, off camera, doesnt matter. the 560 are fast enough. church, I have no idea what the rules will be so you will need to ask. take a monopod wiht you just in case you have low lighting and you can only shoot from the back. either the 70-200 on the DX or use the D750 and bump up the iso. I have no idea, youll need to verify. not sure how comfortable you are but I shoot normally at no less than iso 3200 indoors and the D3s can do 8000 pretty decently. these are dancing pictures and not exactly so important. you might have a situation where theyre going to turn off all lights and youll be shooting in the dark and only with the dj lights there. be prepared to have the flashes setup JIC and put them on the side ready for use. dont worry about remote power adjustments. the venue is so small, you can simply walk over and adjust it. dont know anything about those slaves so will leave it to you to decide if theyre reliable. stands. I use 13' stands. seems the 10' cheetah will do the job for this venue. just be aware of your surrounding and possible kids running around and knocking them over or getting hurt from them. we dont need a law suite. the 13' one I have are simply heavier but not often I use all of the 13'. do you have a bracket to mount flash and umbrella on the stands? you can find nice inexpensive ones on ebay for about $8 each shipped. these are a PITA to deal with [url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/B-Type-Flash-Hot-Shoe-Adapter-Trigger-Umbrella-Holder-Swivel-Light-Stand-Bracket-/371097304925?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56671f7f5d]B Type Flash Hot Shoe Adapter Trigger Umbrella Holder Swivel Light Stand Bracket | eBay[/url] hard to tighten the flash mount with the small dial. I always have 3 of these in my bag [url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Shoe-Mount-Flash-Bracket-Umbrella-Holder-for-Canon-Nikon-Metz-Sony-HVL-F60M-/271332271126?pt=AU_Cameras_Photographic_Accessories&hash=item3f2ca9e416]Hot Shoe Mount Flash Bracket Umbrella Holder for Canon Nikon Metz Sony HVL F60M | eBay[/url] ive had various kind and these are very comfrotable to use. just make sure and tighten the tilt knob well. it wont come undone but feels like it wont tighten. not an issue what kind of stud does your light stands have at the top? I would also recommend a few of these to always have in your bag [url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/Flash-Stand-Holder-Mount-Base-Hot-Shoe-for-Flashgun-D-/191465729020?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c943f2bfc]Flash Stand Holder Mount Base Hot Shoe for Flashgun D | eBay[/url] very useful for placing a flash anywhere you might need. you will need your umbrellas for family formals. my only concern is that I noticed in the US, they sometimes do big groups of people and that will be a challenge to light , pose and setup [/QUOTE]
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