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First portrait lens....50mm AF-S 1.4G or 85mm AF-S 1.8G???
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<blockquote data-quote="Eye-level" data-source="post: 48699" data-attributes="member: 6548"><p>I respect your opinion as well Marcel. The 50mm has been used basically since the beginning of 35mm photography...Robert Capa and all those guys in the 30s and 40s used them very successfully for portraits and I am sure there are many more folks in the world on your side of this issue rather than on my side. Perhaps saying that using a 50 for portraits is a waste of time is a little over the top but here is why I say that...</p><p></p><p>If I take a 28 on a full frame camera and shoot a head and shoulders shot that wide angle is gonna distort the face big time...if I take the same 28 and put it on a crop camera guess what? It will distort the face big time...the focal length is the same! Nothing changes except for the angle of view which has nothing to do with FL or how the lens draws. Same thing goes for a 50...a 50 is a 50 is a 50 just because you are using a crop camera doesn't mean that the FL magically changes to 75...it doesn't it is still just a standard normal 50...if you make a head and shoulders shot there is little distortion of the face to "normal" human eyes because the eye "draws" in about 42-50mm...this is why the 50 CAN work as a portrait lens...WYSIWYG...and on a crop camera you have to stand a little further away than you would on full frame...Now...historically...at least with Nikon and many other brands of 35mm cameras the 85, 105, 115, etc - the short teles - have always been considered the best portrait lenses. Since they are longer they also distort faces but in a more pleasing type of fashion than wide angle. </p><p></p><p>Marcel yes you are correct in saying the smaller the film or sensor, the smaller focal length will give you the SAME ANGLE OF VIEW...but that does not mean in any shape fashion or form that it changes the FOCAL LENGTH of the lens...and any given FL will draw the same on a full frame camera as it will on a crop sensor...crop factor is one of the most misunderstood concepts in photography with the advent of digital cameras IMO...</p><p></p><p>At any rate we probably shouldn't beat a dead horse...you all can stick to shooting portraits with 50s and I will stick to 85s and 105s...after all there really are no fixed rules in how to do the job.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eye-level, post: 48699, member: 6548"] I respect your opinion as well Marcel. The 50mm has been used basically since the beginning of 35mm photography...Robert Capa and all those guys in the 30s and 40s used them very successfully for portraits and I am sure there are many more folks in the world on your side of this issue rather than on my side. Perhaps saying that using a 50 for portraits is a waste of time is a little over the top but here is why I say that... If I take a 28 on a full frame camera and shoot a head and shoulders shot that wide angle is gonna distort the face big time...if I take the same 28 and put it on a crop camera guess what? It will distort the face big time...the focal length is the same! Nothing changes except for the angle of view which has nothing to do with FL or how the lens draws. Same thing goes for a 50...a 50 is a 50 is a 50 just because you are using a crop camera doesn't mean that the FL magically changes to 75...it doesn't it is still just a standard normal 50...if you make a head and shoulders shot there is little distortion of the face to "normal" human eyes because the eye "draws" in about 42-50mm...this is why the 50 CAN work as a portrait lens...WYSIWYG...and on a crop camera you have to stand a little further away than you would on full frame...Now...historically...at least with Nikon and many other brands of 35mm cameras the 85, 105, 115, etc - the short teles - have always been considered the best portrait lenses. Since they are longer they also distort faces but in a more pleasing type of fashion than wide angle. Marcel yes you are correct in saying the smaller the film or sensor, the smaller focal length will give you the SAME ANGLE OF VIEW...but that does not mean in any shape fashion or form that it changes the FOCAL LENGTH of the lens...and any given FL will draw the same on a full frame camera as it will on a crop sensor...crop factor is one of the most misunderstood concepts in photography with the advent of digital cameras IMO... At any rate we probably shouldn't beat a dead horse...you all can stick to shooting portraits with 50s and I will stick to 85s and 105s...after all there really are no fixed rules in how to do the job. [/QUOTE]
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