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<blockquote data-quote="Kodiak" data-source="post: 170841" data-attributes="member: 15426"><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><strong>Family portraits - please critique???</strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">OK then, systematically! And since you have this camera, I will treat you like a </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">serious hobbyist:</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">1. This picture is perfect in my book: tonal range, rendition, frame… all perfect. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Even the chosen moment! Your PP is not discrete enough. Artifacts</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">2. I like the vertical shift that reflects the playfulness of childhood. The chosen </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">moment is great but the rendition is too far in the high keys.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">3. Here, the high keyed rendition would have been the right approach (because </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">of the "dreamy mood" it gives to a memory) <strong>if </strong>the burnt out-wash-out area had </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">not been there. This negative feature suggests a darker rendition in order to re-</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">establish the tonal range. However, this adjustment may take away the "dreamy </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">mood" but will not affect the happiness of that well chosen moment,</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">4. Again, a very slight too high value toward the high keys but other wise very good. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Man, I don't see your problem with the right hand!!! Just bring down the tonal values </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">a tad, and everything will be ok! PP artifacts.</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">5. The high key rendition here may enter under the tab "artistic interpretation". You </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">seem to fancy high keys and I not… except here! Simply because the whites are not </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">yet burnt out… but almost! They must be around 230 to 245 for sure but not yet 255!</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">6. See point 1.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">7. I can't. No way, I can't… just look at this photograph technically… she looks too </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">beautiful, playful, and happy! Let me catch my breath. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Ok, I'm back. This time, I will remind you that the best B&W are not direct conversion </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">but applied conversion, after all colour parameters have been justified. I hope you are </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">sooting in RAW… otherwise your (or this shot) are doomed!</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">8. Start by seeing #6 & #1. =)</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #831000">I am aware, this doesn't meet any golden lines. </span> <span style="color: #831000">I tried to crop it a million times, </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #831000">but for some reason, this original talks to me...</span> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Then, let it talk… it tells no lie! The only thing is that the chosen focal length was too </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">short, for sure!. Otherwise very very cool!</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Promise I will have a chance to see your corrections. Please! =)</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="color: #831000"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">How in the world do you do portraits at a sunny day?! </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">I would like to answer this but it will a little later… I have to run!</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Have a good time!</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kodiak, post: 170841, member: 15426"] [FONT=Helvetica] [FONT=Tahoma][B]Family portraits - please critique???[/B][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma] [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]OK then, systematically! And since you have this camera, I will treat you like a serious hobbyist:[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]1. This picture is perfect in my book: tonal range, rendition, frame… all perfect. Even the chosen moment! Your PP is not discrete enough. Artifacts[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]2. I like the vertical shift that reflects the playfulness of childhood. The chosen moment is great but the rendition is too far in the high keys.[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]3. Here, the high keyed rendition would have been the right approach (because of the "dreamy mood" it gives to a memory) [B]if [/B]the burnt out-wash-out area had not been there. This negative feature suggests a darker rendition in order to re- establish the tonal range. However, this adjustment may take away the "dreamy mood" but will not affect the happiness of that well chosen moment,[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma] [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]4. Again, a very slight too high value toward the high keys but other wise very good. Man, I don't see your problem with the right hand!!! Just bring down the tonal values a tad, and everything will be ok! PP artifacts.[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma] [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]5. The high key rendition here may enter under the tab "artistic interpretation". You seem to fancy high keys and I not… except here! Simply because the whites are not yet burnt out… but almost! They must be around 230 to 245 for sure but not yet 255![/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]6. See point 1.[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]7. I can't. No way, I can't… just look at this photograph technically… she looks too beautiful, playful, and happy! Let me catch my breath. [/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]Ok, I'm back. This time, I will remind you that the best B&W are not direct conversion but applied conversion, after all colour parameters have been justified. I hope you are sooting in RAW… otherwise your (or this shot) are doomed![/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma] [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]8. Start by seeing #6 & #1. =)[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#831000]I am aware, this doesn't meet any golden lines. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#831000]I tried to crop it a million times, but for some reason, this original talks to me...[/COLOR] Then, let it talk… it tells no lie! The only thing is that the chosen focal length was too short, for sure!. Otherwise very very cool![/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]Promise I will have a chance to see your corrections. Please! =)[/FONT] [COLOR=#831000][FONT=Tahoma]How in the world do you do portraits at a sunny day?! [/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Tahoma]I would like to answer this but it will a little later… I have to run![/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma] [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]Have a good time![/FONT] [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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