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<blockquote data-quote="rocketman122" data-source="post: 399611" data-attributes="member: 14443"><p>I like fstoppers. but I didnt read the article fully but I understood the point. read the comments here and then understood it fully.</p><p></p><p>I have a problem when people (amateurs/hobbyists/enthusiast) posts stuff to boast and the work sucks ass. its not jealousy, its the problem that people show off that the pictures are so great when they are just ok. the other problem is others give good feedback or like it because many people wont say MEH. its out of common courtesy and giving the person the illusion the work is better than it is. thats just lying to the person. Id rather be harsh and say it like it is then to kiss ass and say good job. thumbs up. I criticized a few pictures here. I didnt round off the corner but I wasnt a douche about it. I said it as it is with a softish tone.</p><p></p><p>see this here</p><p><a href="http://www.slrlounge.com/your-work-sucks-ira-glass/" target="_blank">Your Work Sucks and That is Okay, Nobody Tells This to Beginners</a></p><p></p><p>this is the truth. when I started I thought I was great, I got my exposure right, I shot trying to copy other photographers and it never had the "polish" of a pros work. I can name a few here who showed pictured and their images lack "polish". everyone does it at first. they think theyre great, they get feedback from friends family that tell them good job (like on the social websites) but theyre all being a bit fake. when I say "polish" it can even be seen in the most simple photo. the photographer will be aware of the subject, whats behind and in front and use those elements as well as getting an aesthetically pleasing image. most wont understand what im talking about. not to boast but when you get to a high level you can quickly assess what a good image is. its like a chef who makes a new dish and for most people it would be amzing, but not to the chef. he knows its missing that special "polish" to make his work stand out. yes I say "polish a lot because it has that extra something that makes it a higher level than most would see.</p><p></p><p>now, I know this is harsh but I dont care from amateur/hobbyist/enthusiast criticism. why? because if you dont shoot weddings for a living, you can not tell me how my work needs correcting. and even those that shoot weddings, I wont even accept their criticism. I will have to see 5-10 images from your portfolio to tell me what level you are at. its all about the small details. cutting hands, too much ceiling in the picture, breaking the nose from the face border, lighting, perspective, and tons more things for me to give you the honor to criticize my work. I say practice what you preach. show me what you can do and I will be all ears. show me you know selective focus, show me you understand about portraits, show me you know about forced perspective, show me you know exaggerated perspective, show me you know how to blend ambient light with flash and so on.. today there are very few people I will listen to for criticism. 1 is my best friend who is elite in every way. I photographed his weddings years back and I helped influence him to get into it and hes just a photography psycho. I think he would give up his wife and children before giving up photography. to me a person whos elite who understand technical, artistic and know how to get his vision in an image. someone who understands lighting and color. not many know all these aspects well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rocketman122, post: 399611, member: 14443"] I like fstoppers. but I didnt read the article fully but I understood the point. read the comments here and then understood it fully. I have a problem when people (amateurs/hobbyists/enthusiast) posts stuff to boast and the work sucks ass. its not jealousy, its the problem that people show off that the pictures are so great when they are just ok. the other problem is others give good feedback or like it because many people wont say MEH. its out of common courtesy and giving the person the illusion the work is better than it is. thats just lying to the person. Id rather be harsh and say it like it is then to kiss ass and say good job. thumbs up. I criticized a few pictures here. I didnt round off the corner but I wasnt a douche about it. I said it as it is with a softish tone. see this here [URL="http://www.slrlounge.com/your-work-sucks-ira-glass/"]Your Work Sucks and That is Okay, Nobody Tells This to Beginners[/URL] this is the truth. when I started I thought I was great, I got my exposure right, I shot trying to copy other photographers and it never had the "polish" of a pros work. I can name a few here who showed pictured and their images lack "polish". everyone does it at first. they think theyre great, they get feedback from friends family that tell them good job (like on the social websites) but theyre all being a bit fake. when I say "polish" it can even be seen in the most simple photo. the photographer will be aware of the subject, whats behind and in front and use those elements as well as getting an aesthetically pleasing image. most wont understand what im talking about. not to boast but when you get to a high level you can quickly assess what a good image is. its like a chef who makes a new dish and for most people it would be amzing, but not to the chef. he knows its missing that special "polish" to make his work stand out. yes I say "polish a lot because it has that extra something that makes it a higher level than most would see. now, I know this is harsh but I dont care from amateur/hobbyist/enthusiast criticism. why? because if you dont shoot weddings for a living, you can not tell me how my work needs correcting. and even those that shoot weddings, I wont even accept their criticism. I will have to see 5-10 images from your portfolio to tell me what level you are at. its all about the small details. cutting hands, too much ceiling in the picture, breaking the nose from the face border, lighting, perspective, and tons more things for me to give you the honor to criticize my work. I say practice what you preach. show me what you can do and I will be all ears. show me you know selective focus, show me you understand about portraits, show me you know about forced perspective, show me you know exaggerated perspective, show me you know how to blend ambient light with flash and so on.. today there are very few people I will listen to for criticism. 1 is my best friend who is elite in every way. I photographed his weddings years back and I helped influence him to get into it and hes just a photography psycho. I think he would give up his wife and children before giving up photography. to me a person whos elite who understand technical, artistic and know how to get his vision in an image. someone who understands lighting and color. not many know all these aspects well. [/QUOTE]
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