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<blockquote data-quote="WayneF" data-source="post: 371188" data-attributes="member: 12496">But not nearly as well as from Raw.&nbsp; For one thing, JPG is only 8 bits, it cannot withstand much tonal shifting.For another thing, the wrong stuff is already in the JPG file, and that previous work has to undone (new values shifted from the old wrong values).&nbsp; That's a lot of shifting, esp of 8 bit data.&nbsp; And JPG artifacts, etc, etc.JPG starts as Raw at the camera sensor too, then the camera processes them, from our camera settings. My bet is some of us don't even know what settings are in there.&nbsp; <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />Raw files start from that same raw value, and we process them after we can see them.&nbsp; We make it look like it want it to look.We cannot shoot JPG and Raw, and compare them.&nbsp;&nbsp; JPG has the settings from the camera, and raw files have no settings.&nbsp; Of course, we likely set JPG Daylight WB and Vivid color several months ago, they are not even necessarily even related to the current scene in front of us.&nbsp; <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />But raw files do have to be processed.&nbsp; White balance at minimum.&nbsp; We can specify Daylight there too, or we have other better ways then.&nbsp; &nbsp; Then they are better.The most common thing done to raw files is to set white balance and correct exposure.&nbsp; But other settings can be applied.&nbsp; If you really want Vivid, you can select Vivid in raw too.&nbsp; It is such a huge advantage to actually see the result, to know what it needs, and to simply do it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WayneF, post: 371188, member: 12496"] But not nearly as well as from Raw. For one thing, JPG is only 8 bits, it cannot withstand much tonal shifting. For another thing, the wrong stuff is already in the JPG file, and that previous work has to undone (new values shifted from the old wrong values). That's a lot of shifting, esp of 8 bit data. And JPG artifacts, etc, etc. JPG starts as Raw at the camera sensor too, then the camera processes them, from our camera settings. My bet is some of us don't even know what settings are in there. :) Raw files start from that same raw value, and we process them after we can see them. We make it look like it want it to look. We cannot shoot JPG and Raw, and compare them. JPG has the settings from the camera, and raw files have no settings. Of course, we likely set JPG Daylight WB and Vivid color several months ago, they are not even necessarily even related to the current scene in front of us. :) But raw files do have to be processed. White balance at minimum. We can specify Daylight there too, or we have other better ways then. Then they are better. The most common thing done to raw files is to set white balance and correct exposure. But other settings can be applied. If you really want Vivid, you can select Vivid in raw too. It is such a huge advantage to actually see the result, to know what it needs, and to simply do it. [/QUOTE]

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