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<blockquote data-quote="rocketman122" data-source="post: 371482" data-attributes="member: 14443"><p>I dont believe dxomark for a millisecond and I do believe money under the table shows the results. thats my opinion. </p><p></p><p>the 70-200VC is a great lens from pics I saw. tamron tokina and sigma have some excellent glass and a pro can easily build a complete kit including pro zooms and primes for MUCH less than all nikon glass equivalent.</p><p></p><p>im not worried about build quality as some lenses by the trio are more robust than nikons by a good margin. nikon have been skimping on build/durability and reliability for a good while now. you can clearly see it in the extremely pathetic plastic they use in primes. what a joke. slower af motor as well and cheap hoods and plastic filter threads. </p><p></p><p>the only thing I have a problem with, with lenses from the trio is af compatabilty and QC for accurate focus. sigma took the lazy excuse out by charging you money for their incompetence by selling you a usb dock. trying to profit from them not investing in QC. </p><p></p><p>the nikon has 2 huge flaws for me to consider upograding from my VR1. close focusing limiter switch is fail in my book and the bigger one is the HEAVY focus breathing. build quality is the same and AF speed is the same. it has better sharpness to the corners and bignetting is better controlled compared to the VR1 although ive not seen any issue with vignetting with my VR1 at all. so not sure what the commotion is about. vignetting is even nice in portraits and ill take vignetting and close focusing vs less vignetting and heavy breathing anyday. and since one cant get in tight, youll have to crop to get the same frame, negating the sharpness in the lens over the VR1. so imo the VR2 is a huge fail in my eyes. they give one good thing but take back something extremely huge. most definitely not worth the price jump from the $1650 VR1 to the $2400 price rape.</p><p></p><p>id have no issue going for the tamron if I didnt have the VR1 but the issue is the bad QC with focus know to plague 3rd party MFR. resale doesnt really matter. you buy cheap and sell cheap. the minor difference you MIGHT see with pixel peeping is irrelevant and for $1200 less, its a huge jump to benefit from it, IF youll even see it. like the difference between the 85 1.4g and the 1.8g. many say the 1.8 is marginally sharper than the 1.4 at the same aperture and true you get a nice shallower dof at 1.4 but at the same apertures it negligable. if this is for personal work I highly doubt youll notice the difference and if its for clients, im CERTAIn they wont even know what the hell theyre looking for. most people dont use proper technique to take advantage fof the lens anyway. if youre not shooting MLU and on a tripod you already lost most for the detail. </p><p></p><p>lets also not mention that tamrons VC is MUCH better than nikons. I dont use VR though as it makes me nauseous.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rocketman122, post: 371482, member: 14443"] I dont believe dxomark for a millisecond and I do believe money under the table shows the results. thats my opinion. the 70-200VC is a great lens from pics I saw. tamron tokina and sigma have some excellent glass and a pro can easily build a complete kit including pro zooms and primes for MUCH less than all nikon glass equivalent. im not worried about build quality as some lenses by the trio are more robust than nikons by a good margin. nikon have been skimping on build/durability and reliability for a good while now. you can clearly see it in the extremely pathetic plastic they use in primes. what a joke. slower af motor as well and cheap hoods and plastic filter threads. the only thing I have a problem with, with lenses from the trio is af compatabilty and QC for accurate focus. sigma took the lazy excuse out by charging you money for their incompetence by selling you a usb dock. trying to profit from them not investing in QC. the nikon has 2 huge flaws for me to consider upograding from my VR1. close focusing limiter switch is fail in my book and the bigger one is the HEAVY focus breathing. build quality is the same and AF speed is the same. it has better sharpness to the corners and bignetting is better controlled compared to the VR1 although ive not seen any issue with vignetting with my VR1 at all. so not sure what the commotion is about. vignetting is even nice in portraits and ill take vignetting and close focusing vs less vignetting and heavy breathing anyday. and since one cant get in tight, youll have to crop to get the same frame, negating the sharpness in the lens over the VR1. so imo the VR2 is a huge fail in my eyes. they give one good thing but take back something extremely huge. most definitely not worth the price jump from the $1650 VR1 to the $2400 price rape. id have no issue going for the tamron if I didnt have the VR1 but the issue is the bad QC with focus know to plague 3rd party MFR. resale doesnt really matter. you buy cheap and sell cheap. the minor difference you MIGHT see with pixel peeping is irrelevant and for $1200 less, its a huge jump to benefit from it, IF youll even see it. like the difference between the 85 1.4g and the 1.8g. many say the 1.8 is marginally sharper than the 1.4 at the same aperture and true you get a nice shallower dof at 1.4 but at the same apertures it negligable. if this is for personal work I highly doubt youll notice the difference and if its for clients, im CERTAIn they wont even know what the hell theyre looking for. most people dont use proper technique to take advantage fof the lens anyway. if youre not shooting MLU and on a tripod you already lost most for the detail. lets also not mention that tamrons VC is MUCH better than nikons. I dont use VR though as it makes me nauseous. [/QUOTE]
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