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<blockquote data-quote="rocketman122" data-source="post: 426642" data-attributes="member: 14443"><p>ok BT any things that are bothering you that you want to ask before I jump in and try to give you some direction?</p><p></p><p>in your test shots, you didnt shoot wiht the 50 at all? pay attention to the focus, because it slipped a bit, especially on the first I think. </p><p></p><p>iso is different in each picture. did you try it at different settings just for testing to see what it would look like? I would shoot no less than 800 with your zoom lens and 1600 with your 50mm. your 50 is sharper and a good lens will make high iso pictures look better than lower quality lenses. lens quality does affect the final image. so you could go higher with a good lens. it will also make the flash work less and it will recycle faster as its not using a lot of light. getting the ambient mixed with the flash. anybody can come in shoot with a smartphone and they will get roughy the same look as you got. its up to you and how comfortable you feel. exposure is not consistent in the shots BT. 1 and 3 are under and u see the grain in the back. and 2 is a bit over but still very useable and 4 is perfect. you can fix that later but better to be a bit over (1/3-1/2) than under because underexposed will raise your grain level and over will hide it much more. number 3 was shot with the flash head straight, yes? and the others bounced? </p><p></p><p>now regarding the settings. 1/60 is fine because your lady was standing, but be aware, that youll use 1/60 and youre images wont be sharp and movement will be documented for sure. try bumping it to 1/125. dont shoot wider than 2.8 with the 50 and f/4 would be better imo and just enough for dof and sharpness. again iso I would say 1250-1600 and youll get better ambient/flash blending. try it next to you. bounce up with white card out. dont use the WA diffuser. youre bouncing up, the diffuser wont make things any softer.</p><p></p><p>are you allowed to walk around at all during the ceremony? so you have the D7100, the neewer flash, a 50 and the 18-140 zoom? how many people are invited?</p><p></p><p>for family shots, you should try to do group shots first. get the mass groups. before you just shoot like crazy, walk over to them and set them up. try as little as possible that one is behind the others. Ive shot 10-12 people in a group shot and I go back and shoot at 50mm and have them all side by side. dont go in closer and shoot wider. go back and shoot them zoomed in. think portraits. think perspective. shooting at the 18mm is not desired.</p><p></p><p>this is what I do when im in a serious rush and lack time at all and no cooperation</p><p></p><p>1-G&B and 4 parents</p><p>2-G&B and grooms parents, brothers and grandparents</p><p>3-G&B and grooms parents, aunts uncles </p><p>then I do the same for the brides side. you can start with whatever u want after setup #1</p><p></p><p>if I have time and people are cooperative then I can break it down a bit more </p><p></p><p>1-G&B and 4 parents</p><p>2-G&B and grooms parents, brothers and grandparents</p><p>3-G&B and grooms parents, aunts uncles </p><p>4-G&B and grooms brothers.</p><p>then I do the same for the brides side. you can start with whatever u want after setup #1</p><p></p><p>and if you really have time, you can shoot each brother with their groom/bride brother/sister. and you can also shoot each brother/sister with their husbands/wife/children. and you can shoot the brothers children by themselves and do the brother/sister by themselves and their wife/husband. meaning</p><p></p><p>brother/sister with spouse and children family together (half body/full body)</p><p>brother/sister by themselves (face/half body/full body)</p><p>their spouse by themselves (face/half body/full body)</p><p>their children as a group together (half body/full body)</p><p>each of the children seperately.(face/half body/full body)</p><p></p><p>so you see, you can get really pedantic with this. </p><p></p><p>some people want tons of variations and some want just a few group shots. not sure when and where youll shoot though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rocketman122, post: 426642, member: 14443"] ok BT any things that are bothering you that you want to ask before I jump in and try to give you some direction? in your test shots, you didnt shoot wiht the 50 at all? pay attention to the focus, because it slipped a bit, especially on the first I think. iso is different in each picture. did you try it at different settings just for testing to see what it would look like? I would shoot no less than 800 with your zoom lens and 1600 with your 50mm. your 50 is sharper and a good lens will make high iso pictures look better than lower quality lenses. lens quality does affect the final image. so you could go higher with a good lens. it will also make the flash work less and it will recycle faster as its not using a lot of light. getting the ambient mixed with the flash. anybody can come in shoot with a smartphone and they will get roughy the same look as you got. its up to you and how comfortable you feel. exposure is not consistent in the shots BT. 1 and 3 are under and u see the grain in the back. and 2 is a bit over but still very useable and 4 is perfect. you can fix that later but better to be a bit over (1/3-1/2) than under because underexposed will raise your grain level and over will hide it much more. number 3 was shot with the flash head straight, yes? and the others bounced? now regarding the settings. 1/60 is fine because your lady was standing, but be aware, that youll use 1/60 and youre images wont be sharp and movement will be documented for sure. try bumping it to 1/125. dont shoot wider than 2.8 with the 50 and f/4 would be better imo and just enough for dof and sharpness. again iso I would say 1250-1600 and youll get better ambient/flash blending. try it next to you. bounce up with white card out. dont use the WA diffuser. youre bouncing up, the diffuser wont make things any softer. are you allowed to walk around at all during the ceremony? so you have the D7100, the neewer flash, a 50 and the 18-140 zoom? how many people are invited? for family shots, you should try to do group shots first. get the mass groups. before you just shoot like crazy, walk over to them and set them up. try as little as possible that one is behind the others. Ive shot 10-12 people in a group shot and I go back and shoot at 50mm and have them all side by side. dont go in closer and shoot wider. go back and shoot them zoomed in. think portraits. think perspective. shooting at the 18mm is not desired. this is what I do when im in a serious rush and lack time at all and no cooperation 1-G&B and 4 parents 2-G&B and grooms parents, brothers and grandparents 3-G&B and grooms parents, aunts uncles then I do the same for the brides side. you can start with whatever u want after setup #1 if I have time and people are cooperative then I can break it down a bit more 1-G&B and 4 parents 2-G&B and grooms parents, brothers and grandparents 3-G&B and grooms parents, aunts uncles 4-G&B and grooms brothers. then I do the same for the brides side. you can start with whatever u want after setup #1 and if you really have time, you can shoot each brother with their groom/bride brother/sister. and you can also shoot each brother/sister with their husbands/wife/children. and you can shoot the brothers children by themselves and do the brother/sister by themselves and their wife/husband. meaning brother/sister with spouse and children family together (half body/full body) brother/sister by themselves (face/half body/full body) their spouse by themselves (face/half body/full body) their children as a group together (half body/full body) each of the children seperately.(face/half body/full body) so you see, you can get really pedantic with this. some people want tons of variations and some want just a few group shots. not sure when and where youll shoot though. [/QUOTE]
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