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<blockquote data-quote="csgaraglino" data-source="post: 576578" data-attributes="member: 42498"><p>My comments were never meant to be condescending or disrespectful, I am very sorry that you took them that way! </p><p></p><p>Now lets look at that elephant…right on Nikon's site, under specs:</p><p><a href="http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/dslr-cameras/d810.html" target="_blank">Nikon D810 | Full-Frame DSLR | No Optical Low-Pass Filter</a></p><p></p><p>Movie Maximum Recording Time</p><p>20 minutes at highest quality </p><p>29 minutes 59 seconds at normal quality</p><p></p><p>And yo will see this (+/- 2 min) for most Nikon camera produces in the past 5-ish years.</p><p></p><p>Please understand this is 20/29 minutes of continuous shooting - if you stop/start the timer starts over.</p><p></p><p>Video limiting has been a know "issue" with DSLR video from the inception. I have experienced it in more than a dozen Canon & Nikon bodies I have owned or used, it's posted all over the net and just about ever DSLR "How-to" site talks about it.</p><p></p><p>In the beginning when I first introduced DSLRs into my television commercial production (~2005) the limits were between 10-12 minutes and this was due to two things: 1) Sensors over heating 2) FAT32 File size limitations. As sensors have gotten better over the past few years over heating damage is not as much of a concern as is image quality from over heating and times have been extended up to 29.59 minutes in optimum conditions. I find that when outside and it's warm/hot 15-20 is about max before I start seeing artifacts in my video - and when inside in very cooled conditions, recording for the full 20/30 minutes looks great.</p><p></p><p>BUT there is still a 29.59 minute cap on all cameras, why you ask... Good question!</p><p>This is due to a EU tariff tax that was set over a decade ago. The Europeans say that anything that can record over 30 minutes is a Video Camera and taxes for video cameras is much higher than those for still cameras. </p><p></p><p>Most companies Nikon & Canon included, all cap at 29.59 minutes (even for US models) to avoid those taxes.</p><p></p><p>Ok, so we all get that - but why are most most Nikons limited to ~20 minutes for 1080p HQ recording? Simply, file size. While some companies (like GoPro) have been able to get past this with "spanning" both Nikon and I believe Canon, for what ever reason, have chosen not to - ish. They will still split large files under 4gb into 2 or 3 different files, but limit a recording session to 4gb. As to why they will not go past 4GB - that I do not know, but I am sure they have their reasonings? </p><p></p><p>So while I am not disputing that your getting more than the limits imposed? I did a little test with my own D810 (just so I don't put my foot in my mouth) and has expected it is limited…. At the current settings (1080p, Highest Quality, 128gb SD Card) I am limited to 10 minutes - when I start shooting there is a countdown timer in the upper right corner - when that hits (0) zero - recording stops - period.</p><p></p><p>I know Magic Lantern has a hack for the Canons, but to my knowledge, there is no legitimate hack for the Nikons. </p><p></p><p>Also, Phillip Bloom (professional in DSLR video, whom I follow online) shoots a lot with the D800 series Nikons and I remember him mention in a couple of recent (past year or so) posts how he wished the limits were removed.</p><p></p><p>So if you are indeed getting more than the limits in one continuous shot, I’d like to know how you have been able to get past these limits that most everyone else is limited to - if your starting/stopping each shot under these limits - then this whole conversation is mute. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]225029[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]225030[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]225031[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="csgaraglino, post: 576578, member: 42498"] My comments were never meant to be condescending or disrespectful, I am very sorry that you took them that way! Now lets look at that elephant…right on Nikon's site, under specs: [url=http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/dslr-cameras/d810.html]Nikon D810 | Full-Frame DSLR | No Optical Low-Pass Filter[/url] Movie Maximum Recording Time 20 minutes at highest quality 29 minutes 59 seconds at normal quality And yo will see this (+/- 2 min) for most Nikon camera produces in the past 5-ish years. Please understand this is 20/29 minutes of continuous shooting - if you stop/start the timer starts over. Video limiting has been a know "issue" with DSLR video from the inception. I have experienced it in more than a dozen Canon & Nikon bodies I have owned or used, it's posted all over the net and just about ever DSLR "How-to" site talks about it. In the beginning when I first introduced DSLRs into my television commercial production (~2005) the limits were between 10-12 minutes and this was due to two things: 1) Sensors over heating 2) FAT32 File size limitations. As sensors have gotten better over the past few years over heating damage is not as much of a concern as is image quality from over heating and times have been extended up to 29.59 minutes in optimum conditions. I find that when outside and it's warm/hot 15-20 is about max before I start seeing artifacts in my video - and when inside in very cooled conditions, recording for the full 20/30 minutes looks great. BUT there is still a 29.59 minute cap on all cameras, why you ask... Good question! This is due to a EU tariff tax that was set over a decade ago. The Europeans say that anything that can record over 30 minutes is a Video Camera and taxes for video cameras is much higher than those for still cameras. Most companies Nikon & Canon included, all cap at 29.59 minutes (even for US models) to avoid those taxes. Ok, so we all get that - but why are most most Nikons limited to ~20 minutes for 1080p HQ recording? Simply, file size. While some companies (like GoPro) have been able to get past this with "spanning" both Nikon and I believe Canon, for what ever reason, have chosen not to - ish. They will still split large files under 4gb into 2 or 3 different files, but limit a recording session to 4gb. As to why they will not go past 4GB - that I do not know, but I am sure they have their reasonings? So while I am not disputing that your getting more than the limits imposed? I did a little test with my own D810 (just so I don't put my foot in my mouth) and has expected it is limited…. At the current settings (1080p, Highest Quality, 128gb SD Card) I am limited to 10 minutes - when I start shooting there is a countdown timer in the upper right corner - when that hits (0) zero - recording stops - period. I know Magic Lantern has a hack for the Canons, but to my knowledge, there is no legitimate hack for the Nikons. Also, Phillip Bloom (professional in DSLR video, whom I follow online) shoots a lot with the D800 series Nikons and I remember him mention in a couple of recent (past year or so) posts how he wished the limits were removed. So if you are indeed getting more than the limits in one continuous shot, I’d like to know how you have been able to get past these limits that most everyone else is limited to - if your starting/stopping each shot under these limits - then this whole conversation is mute. [ATTACH=CONFIG]225029._xfImport[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]225030._xfImport[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]225031._xfImport[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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