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<blockquote data-quote="BackdoorArts" data-source="post: 236138" data-attributes="member: 9240"><p>Having cleaned a LOT of oil and dust from my D600 I look at your photo here and am compelled to say that while what I see here looks like there's a combination of moisture and dust, it looks nothing like the issue I had with the D600. The oil spots were of a more consistent density. The one in the upper left almost looks like an impact crater, with a ring of moisture spread by the particle in the middle. The specks at the bottom right appear to be more larger particles that stick out from the sensor (hence the soft edges) and not oil and dust. That's more a guess, but again they are very dissimilar to what I saw on my D600. </p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, I don't seem to have any of the old dust reference photos from that time. I can only point you to these two posts I made when finding spots on my D600. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://nikonites.com/d600-d610/12495-post-repair-dust-spots-dammit.html" target="_blank">http://nikonites.com/d600-d610/12495-post-repair-dust-spots-dammit.html</a></p><p><a href="http://nikonites.com/d600-d610/14077-nothing-like-shooting-hdr-show-your-dust-back.html#post156922" target="_blank">http://nikonites.com/d600-d610/14077-nothing-like-shooting-hdr-show-your-dust-back.html#post156922</a></p><p></p><p>As you can see these spots are much larger and concentrate in corners. And remember, we're talking two FX sensors, so even though the D800 has more MP's, the surface area is the same, so the size of said spots would be consistent if the problem was the same. I took your full res photo and pulled it into PS and it's difficult to see your spots until I zoom to 100%. Oil spots are immediately apparent, no zooming necessary, and tend to be concentrated in the corners of the sensor, and usually the upper left.</p><p></p><p>I have to side with Nikon and say that your sensor is simply dirty and shows no evidence of a specific problem other than showing evidence of dust on the sensor, and particularly the D600 issue. I've got a D800 and that's what my sensor looks like when it's dirty. When you say that the video was taken just after the camera was "freshly cleaned". That may mean the sensor was clean, but it does not mean that there were not dust particles in the camera, and if there are, 5400 mirror flaps are going to move them around, and some of them will wind up on the sensor. I'm not saying you don't have a potential issue, but I'm confident that if you do it's not the same issue experienced on the D600. </p><p></p><p>Just curious, have you tried using a bulb blower and taken before and after dust reference shots? Spots from oil or other wet causes will almost always persist in before and after shots, but so will things like sticky pollen particles, which you're bound to get if you shoot outdoors. Most plain dust will either be removed or at least move when using a bulb blower, so check some before/after shots with that and it will at least help you a bit with the diagnosis. But as a fellow Jersey shooter I can attest to the fact that there's plenty of particles around to sneak into your gear, and if I'm shooting out in the woods or in fields I'm dealing with pollen half the year, and then cold weather induced ion-charged dust from crumbling leaves and breaking stems and seed pods the rest of the year. I'm constantly blowing my sensor clean and I've done 3 sensor cleanings on my D600 and 2 on my D800 this year alone. Part of the price of doing business.</p><p></p><p>If you are looking to do your own cleanings I'd suggest waiting until a couple of us get our sensor gel sticks, which should be delivered in the next week or so. I've used a wet cleaner previously which works great but the wipes run about $3-4 each and a cleaning often requires more than 1. This holds promise to be a much easier and cost effective solution.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BackdoorArts, post: 236138, member: 9240"] Having cleaned a LOT of oil and dust from my D600 I look at your photo here and am compelled to say that while what I see here looks like there's a combination of moisture and dust, it looks nothing like the issue I had with the D600. The oil spots were of a more consistent density. The one in the upper left almost looks like an impact crater, with a ring of moisture spread by the particle in the middle. The specks at the bottom right appear to be more larger particles that stick out from the sensor (hence the soft edges) and not oil and dust. That's more a guess, but again they are very dissimilar to what I saw on my D600. Unfortunately, I don't seem to have any of the old dust reference photos from that time. I can only point you to these two posts I made when finding spots on my D600. [URL]http://nikonites.com/d600-d610/12495-post-repair-dust-spots-dammit.html[/URL] [URL]http://nikonites.com/d600-d610/14077-nothing-like-shooting-hdr-show-your-dust-back.html#post156922[/URL] As you can see these spots are much larger and concentrate in corners. And remember, we're talking two FX sensors, so even though the D800 has more MP's, the surface area is the same, so the size of said spots would be consistent if the problem was the same. I took your full res photo and pulled it into PS and it's difficult to see your spots until I zoom to 100%. Oil spots are immediately apparent, no zooming necessary, and tend to be concentrated in the corners of the sensor, and usually the upper left. I have to side with Nikon and say that your sensor is simply dirty and shows no evidence of a specific problem other than showing evidence of dust on the sensor, and particularly the D600 issue. I've got a D800 and that's what my sensor looks like when it's dirty. When you say that the video was taken just after the camera was "freshly cleaned". That may mean the sensor was clean, but it does not mean that there were not dust particles in the camera, and if there are, 5400 mirror flaps are going to move them around, and some of them will wind up on the sensor. I'm not saying you don't have a potential issue, but I'm confident that if you do it's not the same issue experienced on the D600. Just curious, have you tried using a bulb blower and taken before and after dust reference shots? Spots from oil or other wet causes will almost always persist in before and after shots, but so will things like sticky pollen particles, which you're bound to get if you shoot outdoors. Most plain dust will either be removed or at least move when using a bulb blower, so check some before/after shots with that and it will at least help you a bit with the diagnosis. But as a fellow Jersey shooter I can attest to the fact that there's plenty of particles around to sneak into your gear, and if I'm shooting out in the woods or in fields I'm dealing with pollen half the year, and then cold weather induced ion-charged dust from crumbling leaves and breaking stems and seed pods the rest of the year. I'm constantly blowing my sensor clean and I've done 3 sensor cleanings on my D600 and 2 on my D800 this year alone. Part of the price of doing business. If you are looking to do your own cleanings I'd suggest waiting until a couple of us get our sensor gel sticks, which should be delivered in the next week or so. I've used a wet cleaner previously which works great but the wipes run about $3-4 each and a cleaning often requires more than 1. This holds promise to be a much easier and cost effective solution. [/QUOTE]
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