D7100 vs. D610

gqtuazon

Gear Head
@yauman: No, it is not tough at all - the matter of fact, you yourself resolved the dilemma - 1) you do need a second camera body as a backup, 2) it would be nice (for you, just like for anyone else) to use the same type of battery and a grip, 3) you obviously do not need a full frame for shootings "events", 4) the difference of 600$ will allow for getting two decent DX lenses...
The plain logic or a common sense leads to the conclusion: buy yet another D7100, and be completely secure when shooting events...:semi-twins:

Having two similar cameras is a great idea but if you are shooting an event, i.e. group pictures, using an ultra wide angle DX lens will distort their faces. Meaning ladies who are positioned on the edge of the camera will appear wider, people in the middle will be elongated. It just doesn't look normal to me and I hate using anything wider than 24mm but that is just me. This is ok with a FX camera and is not an issue.
 

FastGlass

Senior Member
I'm really not bashing the people who own a 600. But with all the issues the 600 has with dust or oil spots. Why on earth would any one consider buying one? Who cares if it's a good deal. Not much of a bargain if it's in the shop most of the time.
 

ShootRaw

Senior Member
Well said^^^^ And I was pricing d3s as well..And they still cost big $..Might as well get the D4 for the prices people are charging..
 

ShootRaw

Senior Member
One of the cool things about camera comparisons is Google! (not trying to be a smartass, btw) I was trying to decide between saving up for the D7000 or D7100 as my next body upgrade, and was looking for comparisons in Google and ran across the site I will link below. I put up a link for your specific question, but it will compare any of the Nikon models to each other (as well as other brands) and weigh out basic pros and cons for ya. It's not an end all comparison, as there are some questions that only those who have used both can answer (like above), but it's a nice comparison of the tech specs.

PLUS, I wouldn't always trust the top score as to who it says is the winner, and I'll put this out as an example. I just tested to see if it would compare competing brands, and comparing the Nikon D3100 to the Canon t3i, it declares the Canon the winner, but, under the advantages of the Nikon it lists: Lower noise at higher ISO, Video autofocus (t3i has none), Less startup delay, Better color depth, Better image quality, Longer battery life, More focus points... and Cheaper! *shrug* Still gives ya a great comparison.

If ya DO upgrade, I'd recommend as soon as possible so you can be very comfortable with the new camera well before the wedding, as those are shots you don't want to mess up. ;)

Nikon D610 vs D7100 - Our Analysis

Having said all that, I'm jealous of both cameras! I'd do backflips for a D610, but don't see that happening anywhere in the near or semi-near future. I'd also be pretty durn excited over the D7100, and it's my goal to have one of those by the end of the year (might take me 2).
Since you are waiting to the end of the year. a d7200 could be in your future..
 

Moab Man

Senior Member
I shoot both the D7100 and D600/610 and here is the real world differences from my experience.

D7100 Pros
Sports photography and wild life photography - reach.
High shutter speed (1/8000) when shooting wide open in bright light.
Focus area covering most of the viewfinder area.
Outstanding low light and high ISO noise in the DX format
Quick focus
Dynamic range in DX format
Macro photography - greater depth of field

D600 Pros
ISO noise or lack of at VERY high ISO.
Low light capability
Skin tones.
Smoothness to the overall picture, a creaminess.
Dynamic range
Bokeh - Shallower depth of field

D7100 Cons
Low light and high ISO noise when compared to full frame
Buffer - Buffer is further reduced when ISO is in auto (learned this yesterday)

D600 Cons
Focus area - Who really thought a focus circle in the middle with two wings was a good idea.
Wide open in bright daylight need a neutral density filter - shutter speed limited at 1/4000.

Those are my observations. I would not say one camera is better than the other, but have certain strengths respectively. I grab the camera best suited for the shooting that day. Today I had bright light to shoot with - D7100. Two days ago it was low light and heavy overcast - D600.

Hope this helps.
 
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ShootRaw

Senior Member
You forgot Fx is better at having a better chance of getting the shot due to not having to back up so far to nail composition..That's what frustrates me about Dx...Specially indoors..
 

Geoffc

Senior Member
You forgot Fx is better at having a better chance of getting the shot due to not having to back up so far to nail composition..That's what frustrates me about Dx...Specially indoors..

Surely that's just a case of having the correct lenses. My wife stayed with DX and has from 10.5mm fisheye to 400mm so she can do anything my FX gear can do distance wise.


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Geoffc

Senior Member
I shoot both the D7100 and D600/610 and here is the real world differences from my experience.

D7100 Pros
Sports photography and wild life photography - reach.
High shutter speed (1/8000) when shooting wide open in bright light.
Focus area covering most of the viewfinder area.
Outstanding low light and high ISO noise in the DX format
Quick focus
Dynamic range in DX format
Macro photography - greater depth of field

D600 Pros
ISO noise or lack of at VERY high ISO.
Low light capability
Skin tones.
Smoothness to the overall picture, a creaminess.
Dynamic range
Bokeh - Shallower depth of field

D7100 Cons
Low light and high ISO noise when compared to full frame
Buffer - Buffer is further reduced when ISO is in auto (learned this yesterday)

D600 Cons
Focus area - Who really thought a focus circle in the middle with two wings was a good idea.
Wide open in bright daylight need a neutral density filter - shutter speed limited at 1/4000.

Those are my observations. I would not say one camera is better than the other, but have certain strengths respectively. I grab the camera best suited for the shooting that day. Today I had bright light to shoot with - D7100. Two days ago it was low light and heavy overcast - D600.

Hope this helps.

Could you elaborate on the buffer issue when using auto ISO? I use that a Lot and hadn't noticed a problem, but maybe I have reached the limit.

EDIT

I've just researched and tried this on my camera and found that auto ISO does not reduce the reported available buffer. However distortion control and long exposure NR do. As I shoot raw this doesn't affect me as I'm only interested in the auto ISO option which is really useful.

This was not an extensive test so if I've missed something I'm still interested.


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Moab Man

Senior Member
@Geoffc

Here is the setup: D7100, Shutter Priority 1/640, Continuous focus with 9 points, and Auto ISO

Press the shutter button and look at the top display for the buffer count and it drops to three shots. If I shut off the Auto ISO the buffer jumps up to 5.
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
@Geoffc

Here is the setup: D7100, Shutter Priority 1/640, Continuous focus with 9 points, and Auto ISO

Press the shutter button and look at the top display for the buffer count and it drops to three shots. If I shut off the Auto ISO the buffer jumps up to 5.
I was able to duplicate these results on my D7100 with image quality set to JPG; when image quality was set back to RAW the Auto ISO setting made no difference.

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Geoffc

Senior Member
I'll try mine when I get home. I tried raw earlier so I think that's the difference. Perhaps it's just a form of punishment for people shooting jpg :)
 

Geoffc

Senior Member
I can't recreate it, although distortion control and long exposure NR does have that effect.

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bigal1000

Senior Member
Just my thoughts on the subject. I would not ditch the 7100 for the 610. In my opinion these cameras are just too close in performance to each other. If you check out the specs their plus and minuses do a pretty good job of evening out.

If I were in your shoes, I would keep the 7100. Get the FX glass you want first. And then buy a 610 body. Keep the 7100 if at all possible. The cameras just really complement each other well.

The 7100 would do great for just the single or couple portraits and the 610 could then be used for the more group type shots. And no switching lenses. Just grab that second body and go.

2 bodies will always beat just a body and 2 lenses.

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Moab Man

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I was able to duplicate these results on my D7100 with image quality set to JPG; when image quality was set back to RAW the Auto ISO setting made no difference.

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Thanks for trying it. That may have to do with my shooting both jpg and raw. I do this because my computer won't preview raw.
 
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