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<blockquote data-quote="STM" data-source="post: 149394" data-attributes="member: 12827">You find film grain &quot;unacceptable&quot;? Why is that out of curiosity? Often times grain gives an image character and can add considerably to the visual impact of the image. Grain is a part of the true photographic process. One&nbsp; of photography's true masters, Alfred Stieglitz, used film grain to great effect&nbsp; in his images. People will still be talking about his images long after any of&nbsp; us are feeding the bugs.&nbsp; I honestly feel quite the opposite. I often find the&nbsp; &quot;plastic&quot; look of digital objectionable. If I want or need an image completely&nbsp; free of grain, I shoot with my Hasselblad. If I want to use grain, even&nbsp; accentuated grain, to add impact to an image, I shoot 35mm with TX and develop&nbsp; it &quot;hot&quot;, ie, 75 degrees F.Case in point. The image below was taken with a <a href="http://rd.bizrate.com/rd?t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bhphotovideo.com%2Fc%2Fproduct%2F4364-REG%2FBeattie_82101_Intenscreen_Grid_for_Nikon.html%2FBI%2F82%2Fkw%2FBEFSGNF2&amp;mid=25514&amp;cat_id=9043&amp;prod_id=355401216&amp;pos=0&amp;rf=af1&amp;b_id=17&amp;bamt=1ca4c7c21fc19ec0&amp;ppr=85c2a67ccc72f368&amp;oid=355401216&amp;country_code=US&amp;atom=9269&amp;bid_type=0&amp;af_assettype_id=12&amp;af_creative_id=8&amp;af_id=6784" target="_blank">Nikon F2</a>, <a href="http://nikonites.com/products/telephoto-5/nikkor-180mm-f28-ed-168/" target="_blank">180mm f/2.8</a> ED AIS Nikkor, 25A filter and TX. I developed&nbsp; the film in D-76 1:1 at 75 degrees to accentuate the grain. My visualization for&nbsp; this image was to provide a spooky and eerie image. The increased grain, high&nbsp; contrast (due to the 25A) filter and compressed perspective of the longer focal&nbsp; length lens, achieved this quite well. Imagine this image taken with <a href="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&amp;field-keywords=digital camera" target="_blank">digital&nbsp; camera</a>&nbsp; with its &quot;no noise&quot;. And &quot;grain&quot; added in PS is a relatively poor replication of true film grain. It would have been nothing but an image of headstones in&nbsp; a cemetery. Blech......booooring!<img src="http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o690/photodotnet/cemetery_zps6cf25ac8.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="STM, post: 149394, member: 12827"] You find film grain "unacceptable"? Why is that out of curiosity? Often times grain gives an image [I]character[/I] and can add considerably to the visual impact of the image. Grain is a part of the [I][B]true [/B][/I]photographic process. One of photography's true masters, Alfred Stieglitz, used film grain to great effect in his images. People will [I]still[/I] be talking about his images long after any of us are [I]feeding the bugs[/I]. I honestly feel quite the opposite. I often find the "plastic" look of digital objectionable. If I want or need an image completely free of grain, I shoot with my Hasselblad. If I want to use grain, even accentuated grain, to add impact to an image, I shoot 35mm with TX and develop it "hot", ie, 75 degrees F. Case in point. The image below was taken with a [URL="http://rd.bizrate.com/rd?t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bhphotovideo.com%2Fc%2Fproduct%2F4364-REG%2FBeattie_82101_Intenscreen_Grid_for_Nikon.html%2FBI%2F82%2Fkw%2FBEFSGNF2&mid=25514&cat_id=9043&prod_id=355401216&pos=0&rf=af1&b_id=17&bamt=1ca4c7c21fc19ec0&ppr=85c2a67ccc72f368&oid=355401216&country_code=US&atom=9269&bid_type=0&af_assettype_id=12&af_creative_id=8&af_id=6784"][COLOR=#ac0000]Nikon F2[/COLOR][/URL], [URL="http://nikonites.com/products/telephoto-5/nikkor-180mm-f28-ed-168/"][COLOR=#ac0000]180mm f/2.8[/COLOR][/URL] ED AIS Nikkor, 25A filter and TX. I developed the film in D-76 1:1 at 75 degrees to accentuate the grain. My visualization for this image was to provide a spooky and eerie image. The increased grain, high contrast (due to the 25A) filter and compressed perspective of the longer focal length lens, achieved this quite well. Imagine this image taken with [URL="http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=digital camera"][COLOR=#ac0000]digital camera[/COLOR][/URL] with its "no noise". And "grain" added in PS is a relatively poor replication of true film grain. It would have been nothing but an image of headstones in a cemetery. [I][B]Blech[/B][/I]......[I][B]booooring![/B][/I] [IMG]http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/o690/photodotnet/cemetery_zps6cf25ac8.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]

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