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Message: <blockquote data-quote="§am" data-source="post: 111862" data-attributes="member: 9187">I reckon we should have a "I read this on page x of the manual and I'm still lost....." and then they can ask the question.And if the answer is in the manual.. wall of silence <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />Also, for the D5100, get the reference manual... I know I've been harking on about it in recent D5100 posts, but seriously, its way better than the user manual <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>