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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Horoscope Fish" data-source="post: 207273" data-attributes="member: 13090">My personal opinion is that they are both "closed". The first one meets all the criteria, obviously, so the real question is the flower shot.I'm going to closed again because while the petals of the flower DO break outside the boundary of the frame, that creates a frame within a frame and our subject becomes the central disk. The petals, while they are coloring outside the lines, are not strong enough in and of themselves to move this shot into the "Open Composition" category in my mind. Also, there is no real sense of a dynamic here; it's a still-life. Our subject is calm, centered and static. All properties of a Closed composition.......</blockquote>