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<blockquote data-quote="Nathan Lanni" data-source="post: 189608" data-attributes="member: 14629">I think you may be referring to our presence in the middle east?It seems to me it's a mixed bag, and the heart of it is should we have been there in the first place, and what was the Bush Administration's real objective.Aside from the immigration issue, which is very hot and another topic by itself, I've had a fundamental problem with our middle east policy for one simple reason: our southern border is like swiss cheese - full of holes. To be clear, I'm not talking about any ethnicity and I support our troops. But I think it's been a horribly wrong thing to do, in light of the loss of life, loss of limbs, damaged lives, etc. when you consider that we don't protect and prevent intrusion through our southern border. How can we claim we've moved the war on terror away from the home front when virtually anybody with half a brain can slip through our border system, including smuggling material as well.Lastly, I think it's laughable that we naively assumed we could saddle the middle east with western style democracy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nathan Lanni, post: 189608, member: 14629"] I think you may be referring to our presence in the middle east? It seems to me it's a mixed bag, and the heart of it is should we have been there in the first place, and what was the Bush Administration's real objective. Aside from the immigration issue, which is very hot and another topic by itself, I've had a fundamental problem with our middle east policy for one simple reason: our southern border is like swiss cheese - full of holes. To be clear, I'm not talking about any ethnicity and I support our troops. But I think it's been a horribly wrong thing to do, in light of the loss of life, loss of limbs, damaged lives, etc. when you consider that we don't protect and prevent intrusion through our southern border. How can we claim we've moved the war on terror away from the home front when virtually anybody with half a brain can slip through our border system, including smuggling material as well. Lastly, I think it's laughable that we naively assumed we could saddle the middle east with western style democracy. [/QUOTE]

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