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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dave_W" data-source="post: 189581" data-attributes="member: 9521"><p>I agree with you on most of this except for the 9-11 part. The US, as with nearly all countries, the intense spying has been an on-going thing. Take J.Edgar Hoover in the 1960's and his high level spying on student unions and civil right orgs, or the 1950's red scare. The difference now is that we humans put it all out there on the internet and make it infinitely easier for these people to learn our "secrets". The so-called "Patriot Act" (irony at its finest) merely formalized and legalized what has been going on for years. IMO much of todays headlines are just sensationalized stories meant to get a rise out of people and most could have been written 20 or 30 or even 50 yrs ago.</p></blockquote><p></p>