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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Krs_2007" data-source="post: 264160" data-attributes="member: 12948">If you have Lightroom there a various filters out there that will get you a good start.  I use them a lot to get comparisons between LR and Nik tools, so what Jake said above is very true.  You can get the cake made with LR and some presets, but you will get the icing from Nik Tools. Also, take a look at the BW processing flow that Jake did.  Its a fantastic start and I followed it for one of my BW shots and I thought it looked good as well as others on here.Just for a recent example, both of my train shots I recently posted were done completely in LR.  Could they be better, of course, but they worked for me.</blockquote>