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<blockquote data-quote="Pretzel" data-source="post: 386021" data-attributes="member: 12257">1)&nbsp; Lithium Ion batteries really don't need all that conditioning from the get go.&nbsp; A lot of people are stuck in the rut they used back when NiCad was the rechargeable battery king, so they assume the same standards carry over, but really...&nbsp; they don't.&nbsp; The new Ni-Mh batteries are WAY better, and Li-Ion took it even a step farther.&nbsp; Some will NOT believe this and argue to the contrary...&nbsp; but I can speak to one of the first tiny little iPod nano units from...&nbsp; geez, '05 or '06, that gets stored for long times, gets charged sporadically, and is still going strong.&nbsp; My son's iPod touch sees a lot more use (not sure how old it is, but yeeeeeeeeeears), but gets put back on the charger every single night with (usually) less than 25% discharge (per &quot;conditioning&quot; rules, that's bad, right?) and is still going strong.&nbsp; Per the old rules, that would &quot;teach&quot; the battery to only have a 25% life, but that's not true.&nbsp; When we take a long road trip, he can play that thing FOREVER, without a break, and still have battery life to spare.&nbsp; Plus, the cool thing?&nbsp; It lasted just as long on it's first charge as it did the last full charge.&nbsp; Li-Ion batteries just do that.2)&nbsp; 225 shots is not nearly enough battery life, unless you were in some crazy wild extreme situation.&nbsp; If it fails to perform after the 2nd charging, use the stinkin' warranty!&nbsp; Don't waste time &quot;conditioning&quot; a brand new battery that doesn't need it - it means you've got either a bad battery or a bad charger.&nbsp; I use the same battery in my D7100, and brand new, out of the box, first charge...&nbsp; I took well over 600 pics before I charged it again, and it wasn't dead, nor did I have a &quot;low battery&quot; warning.&nbsp; Granted, I wasn't using the on-board flash (speedlight, lots), but I'm one of those &quot;hacks&quot; that checks the screen regularly and scrolls back and forth, zooms in and out, etc.&nbsp; I was using RAW + JPG to both card slots, VR, timer shots, and all the other features too, as I was playing with my new toy!&nbsp; The D610 is a full frame, yes, compared to my DX, but I can't imagine it consuming that much more power, even with 25 &quot;flash&quot; shots.3)&nbsp; If all of that doesn't fix it, there's something unusual in the camera somewhere that's putting a hard drain on the battery, but again...&nbsp; use that warranty.&nbsp; Odds are, though, it's probably the battery and/or charger.&nbsp; It happens.&nbsp; Not often, but it does, and it should be an easy fix.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pretzel, post: 386021, member: 12257"] 1) Lithium Ion batteries really don't need all that conditioning from the get go. A lot of people are stuck in the rut they used back when NiCad was the rechargeable battery king, so they assume the same standards carry over, but really... they don't. The new Ni-Mh batteries are WAY better, and Li-Ion took it even a step farther. Some will NOT believe this and argue to the contrary... but I can speak to one of the first tiny little iPod nano units from... geez, '05 or '06, that gets stored for long times, gets charged sporadically, and is still going strong. My son's iPod touch sees a lot more use (not sure how old it is, but yeeeeeeeeeears), but gets put back on the charger every single night with (usually) less than 25% discharge (per "conditioning" rules, that's bad, right?) and is still going strong. Per the old rules, that would "teach" the battery to only have a 25% life, but that's not true. When we take a long road trip, he can play that thing FOREVER, without a break, and still have battery life to spare. Plus, the cool thing? It lasted just as long on it's first charge as it did the last full charge. Li-Ion batteries just do that. 2) 225 shots is not nearly enough battery life, unless you were in some crazy wild extreme situation. If it fails to perform after the 2nd charging, use the stinkin' warranty! Don't waste time "conditioning" a brand new battery that doesn't need it - it means you've got either a bad battery or a bad charger. I use the same battery in my D7100, and brand new, out of the box, first charge... I took well over 600 pics before I charged it again, and it wasn't dead, nor did I have a "low battery" warning. Granted, I wasn't using the on-board flash (speedlight, lots), but I'm one of those "hacks" that checks the screen regularly and scrolls back and forth, zooms in and out, etc. I was using RAW + JPG to both card slots, VR, timer shots, and all the other features too, as I was playing with my new toy! The D610 is a full frame, yes, compared to my DX, but I can't imagine it consuming that much more power, even with 25 "flash" shots. 3) If all of that doesn't fix it, there's something unusual in the camera somewhere that's putting a hard drain on the battery, but again... use that warranty. Odds are, though, it's probably the battery and/or charger. It happens. Not often, but it does, and it should be an easy fix. [/QUOTE]

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