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<blockquote data-quote="WayneF" data-source="post: 175262" data-attributes="member: 12496">I have both of those, and also the Nikon 12-24 f/4 DX, don't overlook it.&nbsp; All are great lenses, but they are kinda different.&nbsp; It seems like choosing a car to buy...&nbsp; A Yugo or a Ferrari?&nbsp; Or some reasonable place in between?&nbsp; Or a pickup truck?&nbsp; Everyone has priorities.The property of lenses is the focal length and the aperture.&nbsp;&nbsp; And there is a quality factor.Sometimes there is great advantage of a f/2.8 lens.&nbsp; Landscapes in bright sun is really not one of those times.&nbsp; Indoors and bounce flash certainly is however.Not that you would shoot f/2.8 (unless doing star trails), but the f/2.8 lens stops down to use it at f/5 with higher quality there, specifically, less vignetting and less distortion, than if not fully wide open.&nbsp; Using a f/5 lens wide open is much less satisfying.The 12-24 is a great lens for DX landscapes.The 14-24 is awesome on FX, but expensive, big, heavy, and DX offers other choices.The 16-85 is good, really great for walk-around-all-day-with-one-lens, but aperture is sort of limited.&nbsp; Not really as great indoors.I would recommend <a href="http://www.photozone.de/nikon--nikkor-aps-c-lens-tests" target="_blank">Nikon / Nikkor (APS-C) Lens Tests</a>for evaluation of lens quality on these.&nbsp; Specifically, also look at wide open results (vignetting and distortion and resolution), compared to same lens results at f/5.6 (which might near wide open sometimes).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WayneF, post: 175262, member: 12496"] I have both of those, and also the Nikon 12-24 f/4 DX, don't overlook it. All are great lenses, but they are kinda different. It seems like choosing a car to buy... A Yugo or a Ferrari? Or some reasonable place in between? Or a pickup truck? Everyone has priorities. The property of lenses is the focal length and the aperture. And there is a quality factor. Sometimes there is great advantage of a f/2.8 lens. Landscapes in bright sun is really not one of those times. Indoors and bounce flash certainly is however. Not that you would shoot f/2.8 (unless doing star trails), but the f/2.8 lens stops down to use it at f/5 with higher quality there, specifically, less vignetting and less distortion, than if not fully wide open. Using a f/5 lens wide open is much less satisfying. The 12-24 is a great lens for DX landscapes. The 14-24 is awesome on FX, but expensive, big, heavy, and DX offers other choices. The 16-85 is good, really great for walk-around-all-day-with-one-lens, but aperture is sort of limited. Not really as great indoors. I would recommend [URL="http://www.photozone.de/nikon--nikkor-aps-c-lens-tests"]Nikon / Nikkor (APS-C) Lens Tests[/URL] for evaluation of lens quality on these. Specifically, also look at wide open results (vignetting and distortion and resolution), compared to same lens results at f/5.6 (which might near wide open sometimes). [/QUOTE]

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