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<blockquote data-quote="Eye-level" data-source="post: 136160" data-attributes="member: 6548">With my lowly D5000 (which is terribly noisy even at lower ISO compared to a D7K or a D600) and the 105/2.5 and even more so the 85/1.8 I can stop down to the sweet spot and handhold indoors.&nbsp; That was sort a challenge with the film camera.&nbsp; It is somewhat of a challenge with the 105/2.5 but if I were FX it would be no sweat.&nbsp; With FX or a late model DX camera I conclude that 1.8 isn't even really necessary.&nbsp; I have no problems at all blurring out backgrounds at any time right on up through the stops so I think the bokeh argument is really just a question of which lens is used and the quality of it's bokeh.&nbsp;&nbsp; With all the new coatings and computer aided lens design I do not think sharpness is a problem anymore either...at any stop.Perhaps this is why we no longer see the super fast super expensive units that are 1.0 or 1.2 at least I can't think of a new modern high speed lens.&nbsp; Leica has a modern Noctilux but I think they still produce this because there are so many Leica film shooters.&nbsp; Nikon still makes the 50/1.2 Ais and it is still the fastest lens they make albeit MF only.&nbsp; I think Nocton makes some high speed units but I don't know much about them.Moral of the story I guess is the high dollar super fast lens is going the way of the dinosaur I would think.&nbsp; I wonder if we will only see 1.4/1.8 in the future?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Eye-level, post: 136160, member: 6548"] With my lowly D5000 (which is terribly noisy even at lower ISO compared to a D7K or a D600) and the 105/2.5 and even more so the 85/1.8 I can stop down to the sweet spot and handhold indoors. That was sort a challenge with the film camera. It is somewhat of a challenge with the 105/2.5 but if I were FX it would be no sweat. With FX or a late model DX camera I conclude that 1.8 isn't even really necessary. I have no problems at all blurring out backgrounds at any time right on up through the stops so I think the bokeh argument is really just a question of which lens is used and the quality of it's bokeh. With all the new coatings and computer aided lens design I do not think sharpness is a problem anymore either...at any stop. Perhaps this is why we no longer see the super fast super expensive units that are 1.0 or 1.2 at least I can't think of a new modern high speed lens. Leica has a modern Noctilux but I think they still produce this because there are so many Leica film shooters. Nikon still makes the 50/1.2 Ais and it is still the fastest lens they make albeit MF only. I think Nocton makes some high speed units but I don't know much about them. Moral of the story I guess is the high dollar super fast lens is going the way of the dinosaur I would think. I wonder if we will only see 1.4/1.8 in the future? [/QUOTE]

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