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Message: <blockquote data-quote="salukfan111" data-source="post: 571126" data-attributes="member: 39212">You need to use that TC 16a with the 180 f/2.8 lens (far superior to 200 f/4) while you're waiting to upgrade.  You should be ok with the TC16a and the 180mm f/2.8.  The picture below was 180 f/2.8 with a monster crop (probably 150 yards off).  The 180mm f/2.8 with tc16a is capable of taking pictures that blow the 70-300 vrg out of the water.  I would love to send the raw for this eagle series to someone that was actually good with PP.  The 70-300 vrg is pretty convenient to use and is the best balance (for budget minded folks) going out to shoot birds.[ATTACH]221520[/ATTACH]</blockquote>