Across the river...

Scratch

Senior Member
Maybe it's just me....But this shot doesn't look "real". Like everything is flat, no dimension to it. Being new to this, I'm not sure if that is normal for a shot like this. I did adjust brightness/contrast a little, not much, and increased the saturation of the greens just a little in photoshop. Thx for any help.

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f/4.8
1/50 sec
ISO 200
120mm
 
Maybe it's just me....But this shot doesn't look "real". Like everything is flat, no dimension to it. Being new to this, I'm not sure if that is normal for a shot like this. I did adjust brightness/contrast a little, not much, and increased the saturation of the greens just a little in photoshop. Thx for any help.

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f/4.8
1/50 sec
ISO 200
120mm

I think it still did not have enough contrast and the sharpness needed to be bumped up a bit.

here is my take on it.

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Scratch

Senior Member
Thx for the help...Yea I see what you mean on the sharpness. But ...Both versions look more like painting than a picture...Funny I had the pic up on my PC last night and my son asked who painted that..lol.
 
Well, If I had to guess I would say that their was no direct sun out at the time the shot was taken. Cloud over sun at the time. That tends to make everything flat. Great for people but not always great for landscapes.

What settings are you using on your camera. Primarily JPEG or Raw? If JPEG then fine/large or one of the lesser setting?

For JPEG use the fine/Large and there is also a setting for sharpness under there that needs to be bumped up to start with.
 
Shooting Menu >> Set Picture Control>>(Lets start with Standard) once on Standard click Right Arrow to get to quick adjust.

I would set it on at least 6 or 7.

This would need to be set on each one of the setting that you use. My D5100 has 7 different choices. Great to get to know these for use in different settings. In my camera I have Landscape 2. I could use it for those late afternoon shots like you had. I could up the sharpness, raise the contrast so that the shots would look better to start with.

I shoot Raw plus JPEG so I get the shot to look pretty good now and the RAW shot for those truly great shot so I can do all the post processing with everything the camera saw without the camera doing any processing. It all depends on what you are doing with the shots. Family stuff and Facebook etc JPEG works well. Just tweek the setting like above in the Set Picture Control and it saves time in Post Processing.
 

AxeMan - Rick S.

Senior Member
​Someone correct me if I'm wrong f/4.8 is going to give you a shorter depth of field. I thought the rule of thumb was with landscapes you wan tot use a higher aperture. This is why it looks soft.

If I was shooting this shot I would have approached it this way.

Camera on a Tripod (Your going to have to hold the camera still with these settings)
ISO 100 / 200
Aperture Priority at f/16
(Camera sets the shutter speed) it's going to be a long exposure that why you need the tripod.

Yes at f/4.8 your going to let more light into the camera but you shorten up your DOF by doing it. You could raise your ISO making your camera more sensitive to light, but by doing so you start to run the risk of introducing noise into the shot which can also soften up a landscape shot.

Come on Rick M. your the landscaper around here. Am I correct on my thinking?
 

Rick M

Senior Member
​Someone correct me if I'm wrong f/4.8 is going to give you a shorter depth of field. I thought the rule of thumb was with landscapes you wan tot use a higher aperture. This is why it looks soft.

If I was shooting this shot I would have approached it this way.

Camera on a Tripod (Your going to have to hold the camera still with these settings)
ISO 100 / 200
Aperture Priority at f/16
(Camera sets the shutter speed) it's going to be a long exposure that why you need the tripod.

Yes at f/4.8 your going to let more light into the camera but you shorten up your DOF by doing it. You could raise your ISO making your camera more sensitive to light, but by doing so you start to run the risk of introducing noise into the shot which can also soften up a landscape shot.

Come on Rick M. your the landscaper around here. Am I correct on my thinking?

Lol, Thanks Rick.

It really depends on the lens also. With a wide angle f6.3- f8 is good depending on the focus point. Standard to telephoto lenses won't have much DoF at 4.8 as above shot at 120mm, you'll need a smaller aperture as Rick stated. I usually shoot f6.3 - f11 for landscapes, sometimes a smaller aperture to slow water. I agree, it's soft, not sure what the focus point was. Tripod for certain and I would have cranked up the ISO if you needed more speed. Trees and leaves are almost always moving, especially near water, so you'll need to compensate for that.

On a side note, for Dx shooters with these new high pixel density sensors, you are going to experience diffraction sooner at small apertures. The good thing is Dx tends to have a higher percieved DoF due to the crop factor. You'll need to find the right balance for the sensor.
 
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