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<blockquote data-quote="Fortkentdad" data-source="post: 365648" data-attributes="member: 24285">Thanks for the post Woody - your results will be of interest to at least a couple of us it seems.&nbsp; Looking on eBay I find that I'm seeing Siggy's 170-500 for around the $600 - $800 mark and adding a Nikon Teleconverter to a 300mm Nikkor would be close - maybe just a little less but not much.&nbsp; I have a mix of primes and zooms but have wondered about the upside of a zoom when bird hunting - any time I've tried that with my 70-210 or my siggy 100-300 I tend to max out the zoom anyway.&nbsp; Not been overly happy with the results.&nbsp; Maybe I'm blaming the lens for poor bird hunting technique?&nbsp; one consideration, sometimes my bird hunting is being done in my inflatable zodiac style boat.&nbsp; Have not used a tripod on board (I suppose I could, it does have a sold aluminum floor).&nbsp; Could at least try my mono-pod.&nbsp; Also stumbled across an older &quot;Tamron AF 200-400 5.6 LD Lens&quot; for under $200.&nbsp; Any thoughts on this lens?&nbsp;&nbsp; From what I've read it sounds like a poor man's zoom, not the easiest to use and has the push-pull focus thing (same as my Nikkor 70-210 which works for me).&nbsp; Images at Flickr taken with this zoom do look good.&nbsp; But I read that it takes lots of shots to get a good one?&nbsp; &nbsp; Other reviews recommend looking at the newer and longer Tamron 200-500 - which I did, twice the money and a bit more, but for $500ish one can be bought down by d'Bay.&nbsp; Another one in the running I guess.&nbsp; With the new Siggy long zooms now released, maybe their last version 150-500 will drop in price - coming in around the $800-$900 or so on eBay.&nbsp; BTW I do prefer buying used from a reputable camera shop rather than any old Ebay site, sometimes they sell their wares on eBay like Henry's of Canada or Roberts.&nbsp; Other times I buy direct from the camera shop.&nbsp; I've done business with KEH and look at them as a good supplier of used.&nbsp; Any others you recommend as good go to for lenses? Time to save up for that lens. And I'm saving for a DCC EMD too (too many expensive hobbies).&nbsp; And Christmas is coming.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fortkentdad, post: 365648, member: 24285"] Thanks for the post Woody - your results will be of interest to at least a couple of us it seems. Looking on eBay I find that I'm seeing Siggy's 170-500 for around the $600 - $800 mark and adding a Nikon Teleconverter to a 300mm Nikkor would be close - maybe just a little less but not much. I have a mix of primes and zooms but have wondered about the upside of a zoom when bird hunting - any time I've tried that with my 70-210 or my siggy 100-300 I tend to max out the zoom anyway. Not been overly happy with the results. Maybe I'm blaming the lens for poor bird hunting technique? one consideration, sometimes my bird hunting is being done in my inflatable zodiac style boat. Have not used a tripod on board (I suppose I could, it does have a sold aluminum floor). Could at least try my mono-pod. Also stumbled across an older "Tamron AF 200-400 5.6 LD Lens" for under $200. Any thoughts on this lens? From what I've read it sounds like a poor man's zoom, not the easiest to use and has the push-pull focus thing (same as my Nikkor 70-210 which works for me). Images at Flickr taken with this zoom do look good. But I read that it takes lots of shots to get a good one? Other reviews recommend looking at the newer and longer Tamron 200-500 - which I did, twice the money and a bit more, but for $500ish one can be bought down by d'Bay. Another one in the running I guess. With the new Siggy long zooms now released, maybe their last version 150-500 will drop in price - coming in around the $800-$900 or so on eBay. BTW I do prefer buying used from a reputable camera shop rather than any old Ebay site, sometimes they sell their wares on eBay like Henry's of Canada or Roberts. Other times I buy direct from the camera shop. I've done business with KEH and look at them as a good supplier of used. Any others you recommend as good go to for lenses? Time to save up for that lens. And I'm saving for a DCC EMD too (too many expensive hobbies). And Christmas is coming. [/QUOTE]

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