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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vixen" data-source="post: 375354" data-attributes="member: 21839">I'd recommend both too ie polariser (I use Hoya also) and ND400. If you can afford something like the Lee BigStopper go for it as they are supposedly VERY good.You can't use them both at the same time (if circular filters), and you will most likely need to cover your eyepiece when taking longer exposures especially if it is bright & sunny (using the ND400).I do quite a bit of long exposure water and find that in the shade and on dull days my polariser is enough, which is great because you get the polarising benefit too.</blockquote>