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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jay_dean" data-source="post: 429330" data-attributes="member: 34040"><p>I've gone through the exact same dilemma, and i live further north than you<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> F2.8 is great, it really is, and the 400mm f2.8 is the one i'd love, but the weight, its just not easy to take handheld shots. 400mm is probably still a bit short for birding tbh, so i'd want a TC on there, 1.4 at the most, so that takes you to f4 anyway. The 500mm f4 is a compromise, it's lighter, and can be hand held. At the end of the day, you've got to be able to live with it</p></blockquote><p></p>