1st wedding shoot. HELP withe lenses

Crystalclearimages

Senior Member
Ok do can you guys give me some suggestions I have the D 3200. I have my first wedding to shoot. Really nervous. And I am wondering what lenses would do the best. It's an out door wedding very small. But I still want it to turn out amazing. I have the kit lenses witch is 18-55 mm, 55-20mm, 35mm prime. I was thinking I could rent one if I needed some thing else. Please help. Thanks so much.
 

Blacktop

Senior Member
I am not a wedding photographer nor a pro at photography in general, but one thing I do know.
A wedding to most people is the most important part of their life and you better be sure that you know what you're doing.
24 years ago when I got married we hired a photographer. I still curse him to this day.
 

Mark F

Senior Member
Most wedding photogs I know bring at least 2 cameras. One with wide to normal lens like a 24-70 and one with a telephoto lens like a 70-200 mounted on it so they don't have to change lenses. Another thing they do is bring along at least one helper. One with another camera so he doesn't have to run around so much and to hold an off camera flash. To do a good job photographing a wedding with just one camera and one person seems to me to be a pretty difficult job

With that said... And since this is a small outdoor wedding... I think you can do a good job with what equipment you have


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Crystalclearimages

Senior Member
Thanks so much. This is a good friend and her 2 wedding and is very small. So that's why I agreed to do it. Other wise I am no way ready for all that. She wants it very casual but I still want to do an amazing job for her. Thanks so much for the info.
 

Pretzel

Senior Member
Unless you're able to get in real close, I'd suggest a 50mm or 85mm prime. Still fast, nice bokeh, little extra range. That or the 24-70 2.8 to catch most of that range. It would be nice to have another camera with a bit more range on it as well. Perfect match would be a 24-70 on one, 70-200 on the other.

1st wedding is a bit scary, and that's coming from my experience as a 2nd shooter. Can't imagine being the primary/only shooter and the stress from such.
 

rocketman122

Senior Member
Ok do can you guys give me some suggestions I have the D 3200. I have my first wedding to shoot. Really nervous. And I am wondering what lenses would do the best. It's an out door wedding very small. But I still want it to turn out amazing. I have the kit lenses witch is 18-55 mm, 55-20mm, 35mm prime. I was thinking I could rent one if I needed some thing else. Please help. Thanks so much.

no matter what people will write here, only experience will teach you to shoot a wedding properly. no crash course can teach a person to be proficient at anything overnight.
What lenses would be best?

Wide angle
14-24 2.8
17-35 2.8
16-35 f4 VR

midrange
17-55 2.8
24-70 2.8

tele
80-200 2.8
70-200 2.8

add an 85, 105 and a 50 as well. fisheye is nice also.

since youre a newbie, I suggest you find a pro to do the job and tag along. but since youre inclined to do it and the event is outdoors, then youll be fine in terms of lenses. inside, youd be screwed. just be aware, that outdoors (as much as it seems easy because of the ample light) photography is very difficult with backlighting and using EC. its not easy at all. you have to be smarter than the cameras metering. well, camera. you need two cameras two flashes . although you can get away without a flash if its outdoors

how people take newcomers to photo their most important day, I dont know. I feel bad for the couple. you may be able to get decent shots for them. but a pro wedding photog would know where to stand at the right time. understands about perspectives better. exposure, lighting. the technical side of the camera. maybe find another person who has some gear and ask him to join you so that person can shoot another angle to yours for backup. because missed shots will happen. dont think it wont. it happens every wedding that I miss something small or dont get it the way I want.

all I will say is get extra memory cards and batteries. swap them often and shoot on CH. all the time.

But I still want it to turn out amazing

not going to happen. your enthusiasm is good. be realistic though. should look better than a smartphone. if youre asking what lenses and using kit lenses and you wrote yourself "newbie" then no. be upfront with her. oh and shoot raw.
 
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Blade Canyon

Senior Member
I haven't shot a wedding since 1990, and that was for free with film, but if your friends have seen your pictures before and want you to do it, then don't worry. They already know what they're getting.

Go to the BHPhotovideo channel on Youtube. It is chock-full of great videos for wedding shooters.

Two great ones here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2nNxaBA6ss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmi9TPQ57Mo

That's four hours of instruction right there in those two links. Both are by an Australian shooter Jerry Ghionis, who is very enjoyable and easy to watch. You can prop up your iPad and watch these while you are cooking. One of his main points is that it's not your gear, it's light and posing. Focus more on those. As a first-timer, you might actually end up looking forward to the actual wedding after seeing these.
 

Pretzel

Senior Member
@Crystalclearimages They asked ya to do it, so learn as much as you can, practice on kids/neighbors/the happy couple themselves if you can, and do it well. The more you can practice and refine, the better. I can't help but think that they've seen your work already, so I'm sure they know your skill level. Work mainly on getting the proper exposure and focusing on the right subject (hint: bride, bride and bride) and give them your 110% effort. Scout the site in advance, know what time of day it's going to be, where the sun will be, what the backdrop will be, and practice some more.

Sometimes these pros come in and rant, but they really have good intentions (i.e. wanting folks to get the best product). They just don't realize that, most of the time, these questions come about from folks who are shooting for friends/family who either don't want, or can't afford, to drop a couple grand on a "professional". I remember, way back when I got married... (near 23 years ago) After footing what I could help with re: the wedding, and making reservations for a very "mini" honeymoon, I couldn't have offered someone $100 for photos, so an "uncle" came and did the job. That photographer was FREE, had no wedding experience, and he shot pics with his fancy camera on "AUTO" mode. It was film, so there was no chance to edit at all, as we printed them at the local 1 hour photo. Were they the best ever? Nope. They weren't the worst, either, and I can guarantee there are pictures there that are still special to me, and my wife and I will cherish them forever.

You've got the advantage of being able to snap a LOT of digital images that can be enhance through PP, and you're willing to get advice and spend time learning in advance of the event, so you've got a leg up over that. Good luck, and good shooting!

'nuff said.
 
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sonicbuffalo_RIP

Senior Member
If you haven't toured PS or Lightroom, then go ahead and shoot everything in automatic mode as that will give you decent results with no worries. If you do have editing experience, then follow everyone's advice. The first wedding I shot was terrific but all i really did was try to create good poses, and it was for a friend. They were happy with my inexperienced shots as they had super good contrast. I shot with a film camera, and it wasn't top of the line, but it was a good camera. Relax and put the camera on automatic pilot. You'll do fine!
 

Blade Canyon

Senior Member
One more thing I remembered: talk to the couple ahead of time to discuss their expectations. The wedding I shot for free I shot totally from a guest's perspective. It never occurred to me to go to the bride's or the groom's dressing area to get some pre-wedding shots, for example, but maybe that's what they are expecting. Do they want shots during the ceremony, or would they prefer you do not shoot then?
 

Crystalclearimages

Senior Member
Pretzel. Thanks so much. I am and will be doing lots of extras to get ready for it. They have seen my wk and know what they are getting and are short on budget. It is her 2 nd wedding and does not want to send a lot on a pro. Thank for the info and encouragement I really appreciate it.
 

rocketman122

Senior Member
Pretzel. Thanks so much. I am and will be doing lots of extras to get ready for it. They have seen my wk and know what they are getting and are short on budget. It is her 2 nd wedding and does not want to send a lot on a pro. Thank for the info and encouragement I really appreciate it.

Im always surprised when I hear this. we are photogs who know what good pictures are. appreciate good pictures. do all we can (to the best of our ability) to get great pictures. and yet a once in a lifetime event, thats so special, and people skimp.

more than that. I as a person with high morals and ethics would not see it as im doing them a favor to put such a burden on my shoulders. if I was in your position today and my best friend asked me to shoot his wedding because he didnt want to "spend" a lot on capturing once in a lifetime memories, I would say buddy I love you and im adding another 500 bucks to your present, but lets go find someone who will join me to take your pics. I want the best for you and I need to make sure someone experienced will also be there with me to cover your wedding. my gear isnt good enough and I as much as I think I can do a good job, I dont know how to shoot weddings.

out of everything on that day. everything that is paid for, everything that is invested in, pictures will be the least. its the only thing thats left of everything that happened. all the planning, and the time spent finding the right dress, the right place. all the small details. photos will be the least invested in.

now to the nonsense word of "spending". there are all types of levels of "pros". for EVERY budget. so theyre all crap if they cost less than 5 grand I guess. im sure there are many who would take $500 and put out fabulous photos. it doesnt mean you need to spend a lot for a semi/pro. so your work can be as good as even midrange experienced photog?

if youre planning to shoot yourself, post a thread in some art school to students and ask if someone would love to join you (no fee but free food)

I will give you an example of situation that happened. My best friend photographed a wedding. the bride was a photog herself. pretty good gear. nice 2.8 zooms, a few primes. really is into photography. she invited all her friends (who are photog enthusiasts and have good gear as well) she said that she was so disappointed with all of their pics and was so shocked how so many people can take such garbage pics and all his were like art. exposure spot on, perspectives were correct. beautiful angles. she said she looked so beautiful in his photos and in none of their. they all bunched up and shot the same pictures. she practically threw every one of their pictures out. so many of them and all bad pictures

so as much as you want to do good, it wont be better than a regular photography student who has an understanding of light and technical knowledge. sorry to be harsh. this is the reality of it. Im not a politically correct guy. people dont want to hear the truth. I dont round off the corners. I say it like it is. many kiss A**. I dont. thats fake. if you never shot a wedding you owe it to her as a best friend to get backup. otherwise you arent. If I lived in your area and read this, I would offer (theoretically) to shoot it for free, because its a sin not give beautiful memories to a BG.

doing snapshots and "say cheese" look into the camera pics can be done with a smartphone. its done all day long. capturing emotions, thats art. conveying emotion through images, thats the difficult task. walking up to people and shooting them while they look into the lens is nonsense. anyone can do that. thats not photography. capturing expressions, capturing emotions, showing feeling in an image, and doing it artistically, thats what its all about.
 
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Crystalclearimages

Senior Member
Rocketman122
Ok no where did I say I haven't taken classes!! I have. So I do know about lighting and technical knowledge!! And so on. I have done lots of shoots this would be my first wedding. Also everyone has the right to do and spend their money as they see fit. Their are only going to be 10-15 people I would think for that small of a wedding I can handle it. I got on here to get some suggestions on lenses that wk best for weddings. My friend has seen my wk and loves it.
 

Eyelight

Senior Member
Always focus on the bride.

I don't disagree with @rocketman122 , but everyone has a budget. I used to shoot weddings for people that couldn't afford the preacher. If someone wants a challenge, use a film camera and hand the bride's father the film at the end of the evening.

Light and focus.

Find out what the BRIDE and groom want. Find out if the officiating minister, justice, etc. has any preferences, like no flash during the ceremony, etc.

Always focus on the bride.

Independent of all other concerns: A second camera would be a plus. A second person would be better. Do staged shots with both cameras.

Don't be too creative. Unless you have a knack for shallow DOF's or other wondrous magical techniques, avoid them. Some can be added later, except for:

Focus and light.

Frame and compose, but remember a good exposure on your 3200 will allow a good amount of cropping, so favor lighting, focus and a wider angle.

Always focus on the bride.

Charge batteries and have extra SD cards and Backup the photos ASAP.

Just a few thoughts, but since I won't be there, and really have no clue what you are walking into, use at your own discretion.

Enjoy, and oh yes, always focus on the bride. Grooms are usually kind of fuzzy anyway.
 

kevy73

Senior Member
Jerry Ghionis shot a wedding on an iPhone so don't sweat the equipment as long as your ability is up to it.

That said a few fast lenses never hurt anyone. My goto lens is my 24-70 f/2.8 for me, it is the perfect all round lens. Long enough to get away from your bride and groom and give them some space but also wide enough to get some nice wide angle shots too. That said, you are shooting DX, so the long will be longer as well and the wide will be narrower.

You are a brave girl. I still remember my first wedding and I have shot in excess of 500 of them now over a LOT of years.

Take time to relax as much as you can - take a snack / sandwich if you have to - no one can think on an empty stomach. Drink lots of water.

If there is someone you could count on to take with you - even if just for moral support and to carry your bag that will make a big difference.

Try and enjoy it.
 

aroy

Senior Member
I would suggest that you also take casual pre wedding shots of the couple, and any informal party they may throw. That way you will get an idea of how the shots are coming out. If it is an out door weddings and there are a few people attending it, then with good light the kit 18-55 would be invaluable. Primes and shallow DOF are fine, but if you have not done a lot of shallow DOF portraits, then avoid them, use f8 to get every thing in focus. That matters more than getting the groom or bide out of focus. If you are really interested there are a few post processing software where you can get the shallow DOF effect.

Finally as every one has suggested
. Charge all your batteries. Carry spares if you have, else buy at least one to use in emergency.
. Format and check your data cards. I have no idea how many shots you will be taking, but budget for at least a few hundred. That way you will be able to capture a lot of expressions. In such cases (especially with digital) it is better to take excessive images, than wait for just the right moment and miss it.

I would also suggest that you keep your cell phone battery charged. In case the camera packs up, you have a back up. Do not worry about IQ of the phone. With my Nokia 5MP camera I have taken a hundred shots of my friend's daughter's wedding. Most of them in day light. When I presented them the prints the next day they could not believe that phone could produce such images.

Here are a few images from the phone. No PP just as they came out of the camera.



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The bride

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Bride - pre wedding

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Couple - post wedding

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My wife
 
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