My names Mike and I'm addicted, or I must be flippin mad

oldsalt

Senior Member
I've already got my 300 f2.8 nikon (and it's luuuuverly) but I just bought a 600 f4 nikon... and it's even more luuuuverly.... hehehe Once you start you just can't stop - just ask my good buddy Bill16....
good luck with whatever you decide to get... enjoy.
cheers
 

nikonpup

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Do you have any information on the cart, such as how you converted it? I'm really interested in doing one of these. Is there a thread here on your project? Do you have a favorite website that you recommend for these conversions?

WM

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http://www.ruggedgear.com/ I WAS INTO "SPORTING CLAY" COMPETITION, CART CARRIED MY GUNS, SHELLS AND WHAT EVERY AROUND THE SHOOTING COURSE WHICH COULD RUN TO OVER A MILE IN LENGTH.
 

BobB

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I have a Sigma 150-500 for my D3100. Now I'm see the short coming of the D3100. Have my eye on a D7100. Where does the madness stop? :greedy_dollars:
 

Blacktop

Senior Member
Mike, you know the Tamron drove you nuts. Why not try the Sigma, go with a Nikon 300mm f/4 with 1.4xTC, or wait on the new Nikon 200-500? J-see is right, you don't really want to marry your ex again, do you? :)

I agree, though, you NEED a long lens. It's importance is pretty close to the need ofr oxygen, food, water, and Internet access.

That's what I'm saying..Well, I haven't said it yet but I will! Unless it has been said already and it seems that it has. I'm dying for a 150-600mm lens, but I'm not getting a tammy, after what you and a few others have been through. I'm waiting for the Siggy or the Nikon 200-500.
 

mikew_RIP

Senior Member
Mike, you know the Tamron drove you nuts. Why not try the Sigma, go with a Nikon 300mm f/4 with 1.4xTC, or wait on the new Nikon 200-500? J-see is right, you don't really want to marry your ex again, do you? :)

I agree, though, you NEED a long lens. It's importance is pretty close to the need ofr oxygen, food, water, and Internet access.

Saying this could be like insulting some one about there wife :D ime not convinced the Sigma is as sharp or has as good contrast as the Tamron,the nikon 300 and 1.4 would have to be the pre PF version so no VR ,i need to run some tests with the 70-300 and VR switched off.i can go higher with shutter speeds now,the Nikon 200-500 is heavier and more expensive.
The Sigma does have the definite advantage of being able to fine tune the lens itself at different focal lengths,the Nikon duo has the IQ advantage but would need more cropping,the ex girlfriend well i remember the bad times but loads of us will have nipped back on occasion for the good times :D but i guess we never stayed there.
 

Felisek

Senior Member
Don't fight it. You know you want it. You might wait for the new Nikon 200-500 review, though.

And if it all becomes too heavy to carry, you know the solution:

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Felisek

Senior Member
Well, this is a 1024x1024 crop from the Sigma (not sure about 100%, as it depends on how Nikonites show it, your screen resolution and your web browser). The same focal length as yours:

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PS: I reduced Nikonites' image size to medium, as it looks very similar to 100% as shown in Photoshop.
 
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mikew_RIP

Senior Member
It probably varies between individual lenses,the first Sigma 50 -500 i borrowed i wouldn't have entertained,then the second could do this.

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Woodyg3

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Saying this could be like insulting some one about there wife :D ime not convinced the Sigma is as sharp or has as good contrast as the Tamron,the nikon 300 and 1.4 would have to be the pre PF version so no VR ,i need to run some tests with the 70-300 and VR switched off.i can go higher with shutter speeds now,the Nikon 200-500 is heavier and more expensive.
The Sigma does have the definite advantage of being able to fine tune the lens itself at different focal lengths,the Nikon duo has the IQ advantage but would need more cropping,the ex girlfriend well i remember the bad times but loads of us will have nipped back on occasion for the good times :D but i guess we never stayed there.

I didn't realize the weight issue with the new Nikon. I looked it up and you are certainly right, the Nikon will be almost a pound heavier than the Tamron. The older 300mm f/4 with 1.4x is about a pound lighter than the Tammy, and I REALLY notice the difference. The new 300mm f/4 is crazy light, but also leaves one's pocketbook significantly lighter, as well.

Maybe the Tamron folks have worked the bugs out and the latest copies of the 150-600 will have less focus lock up problems. I don't know what I would do in your situation, Mike, but you really do need a nice, long lens since you enjoy bird photography so much.
 

J-see

Senior Member
Also keep in mind you're never going to have the same experience with the Tam on the D750 as you had on the D7100. Now 600mm looks like 600mm.

I don't want to be a party pooper but if I was in the same situation, I'd get the Sigma C.

Yes they say the Tam is a bit sharper at the long end but from what I see online, in practice I doubt it'll make any difference. Processing, light, aperture et all will each make more difference in sharpness between shots than the difference between the lenses.

On all my cams the Tam freezes most on my D750. Now that might be because I mainly shot her on that cam during the low light season. You can gamble on getting a freeze-free specimen but I personally think the odds are low. If they would have fixed the issue, they could fix our issue but it's still deadly silent when it comes to that. You also have to keep in mind you'll need different fine tune values on different focal lengths which is impossible on a Nikon unless you want to do it manually each time. Unless you will do it manually each time you change length, the Sigma will, on average, take sharper shots (if you get the dock) because its tuning will be much more accurate.

I'd consider this first if I was in your position.

You know what they say about the donkey and the stone.
 
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Felisek

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^ What he said. I must add that tuning the Sigma with the dock is not easy nor straightforward. In particular, you cannot put a ruler at infinity to see whether you have front or back focus. It requires a fair amount of trial and error, and every time you have to take the lens off the camera, put it into the dock and change one parameter. Needs patience.

Also, I noticed that at 600 mm and the distance of 15 m, my lens was insensitive to fine tuning. Whatever the value I put through the dock, I got the same result - a slight front focus. At other distances/focal lengths I could see the effect of changing lens parameters, just not at 600 mm / 15 m.
 

mikew_RIP

Senior Member
Also keep in mind you're never going to have the same experience with the Tam on the D750 as you had on the D7100. Now 600mm looks like 600mm.

I don't want to be a party pooper but if I was in the same situation, I'd get the Sigma C.

Yes they say the Tam is a bit sharper at the long end but from what I see online, in practice I doubt it'll make any difference. Processing, light, aperture et all will each make more difference in sharpness between shots than the difference between the lenses.

On all my cams the Tam freezes most on my D750. Now that might be because I mainly shot her on that cam during the low light season. You can gamble on getting a freeze-free specimen but I personally think the odds are low. If they would have fixed the issue, they could fix our issue but it's still deadly silent when it comes to that. You also have to keep in mind you'll need different fine tune values on different focal lengths which is impossible on a Nikon unless you want to do it manually each time. Unless you will do it manually each time you change length, the Sigma will, on average, take sharper shots (if you get the dock) because its tuning will be much more accurate.

I'd consider this first if I was in your position.

You know what they say about the donkey and the stone.

I have taken into consideration the FOV situation,using the P610 has shown me i had got lazy with the 150-600 and D7100,i have brought my field craft back to where it was,it should be a similar experience to when i had the 120-400 on the D7000,with the difference of a better sensor now.
A guy on another forum has just ordered a Tamron but first he rang Tamron about the freeze,there answer was they have no knowledge of any problems,so a fix if there is one has been done quietly and not a lot of chance of a retrospective fix unless you chase them,thats if there is one.
The Dock is a major consideration,although i do believe you can get too fanatical about it,problems will always arise due to the distance you set it at and the focal length,distance to subject,focus breathing,so many variants but yes multi settings should help to rectify these.


I should know the Donkey and the stone story but i cant think of it.
 
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