A very interesting discussion

Dave_W

The Dude
When shooting humans, I've found that a "double tap" or even triple tap gives me better results than a single shot. It cuts down on the number of blinking eyes or other muck-ups that seem to be inevitable when doing model shooting (and which is why I absolutely hate shooting this kind of photography. Very frustrating). Not really sure this qualifies as "spray and pray" but it's something that I couldn't get away with back in the film days.
 

Mike D90

Senior Member
When shooting humans, I've found that a "double tap" or even triple tap gives me better results than a single shot.

I love your way of thinking! I too live by this philosophy and I think most people do deserve a double tap. Some need a triple tap for good measure.
 

Browncoat

Senior Member
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Alan

Senior Member
I don't drive a car only one way, ie: 65 mph on an icy road or 30 mph on a dry Interstate. I don't cook my eggs only one way, some days scrambled some day sunny side up . I don't dress with the same shirt and pants everyday, not wearing a suit to mow the lawn. Why then do I need to shot photographs the same way?

Case in point these two bird shots. They are both birds in the wild. They were both shot handheld. They were both on a sunny day. The first one I spent time waiting for the moon to be in the right place because I knew the bird is nocturnal and would most likely not move, and I chose my position based on that. The second, well you get the picture.

I could go on about shooting weddings, portraits, kids etc but my point is do what you feel is right at the time. There is no perfect rule except maybe this one....Do your best, Post-process the rest. :cool:

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Englischdude

Senior Member
Enjoying it is the key element, and you can do that with or without the planning.

hear hear! there are so many theories about tips and practices for improving photography technique which will inevitably improve the hit rate, however fun and enjoyment is the key. go for an hours walk and take at least one pic every 10', next day take the same walk and plan only taking 10 shots etc. etc.
It is like learning anything and any change process, first you need to consciously make the effort, after a while it comes naturally!
 

Eyelight

Senior Member
The first one I spent time waiting for the moon to be in the right place because I knew the bird is nocturnal and would most likely not move, and I chose my position based on that.

Now that is planning, with a good understanding of the subject, their habits and a very, very extended environment.
 

john*thomas

Senior Member
My son had a bout last Saturday......my train of thought isn't about setting up a perfect shot. I can rarely good a good action shot as I'm trying to watch the fight. LOL

I thought I had blew this one BUT he absolutely loves it. Eyes closed and all it's his favorite shot. It does have a certain attitude about it. No way I could have planned it.

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Now I am fully aware that what someone who is getting paid for a job as opposed to what I do, is two very different things. (he won BTW)
 

Lawrence

Senior Member
Good golly Miss Molly!!

I went to bed and woke up to 4 pages of discussion - why didn't you guys wake me up so that I could take part?

Some great confessions and theories here and I am pleased to read all the different approaches - the military guys talking double and single tap, the "dirty movie' types showing animals procreating and of course the inevitable humour.

My "interesting discussion" certainly has turned into just that.

It is clear to me that I am similar to a lot of you and that is really encouraging. In fact reading these posts I can associate with most of them (except the chick who was taking photos of floors and ceilings to make her model feel like a rock star) and I can particularly relate to Vixen who, like me, takes shots to check settings. Good on you @Vixen because you are one of my stars and I am more than happy to be in your camp at any point.

I have decided though that I do need to slow down before I snap and become consciously competent as I do believe this will eventually lead to becoming unconsciously competent - like the analogy of driving a car which someone mentioned.

I thought I had slowed down, and I definitely have but not enough.

I should have plenty of opportunity to practice this in the next 2-3 weeks and hopefully this will show in my results.
 

STM

Senior Member
Resident Grumpy Film Guy brings up a good point...

Back when I signed up for the modeling gig (photo group crowdsourced paying a model for everyone to shoot) there was this female photographer who stood out from the pack. Not because she was the only woman photographer there, but because she was in full rapid fire mode. I thought I was in a war zone.

The rest of us were checking lighting, carefully posing, checking, composing, checking again. This chick would've taken 50 photos in that time. It should go without saying that I had to give her crap about it. She said:

"I shoot this way with all my clients. It makes them feel like they are a big time model and they are more comfortable."

How much merit there is to that, I dunno. I peeked over her shoulder when she was doing some edits, and most of the time she wasn't even making an effort to compose. Half the shots were of the floor, ceiling, etc. Seems like that would be pretty hard on your gear to shoot that way.

I would have hardly been able to contain my laughter at that one.
 

Alan

Senior Member
"the "dirty movie' types showing animals procreating"....I resemble that remark although I prefer to call it "National Geographic Eligible".


 
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