Something to outrage Americans / Canadians

Thatguy Steve

Senior Member
So in the midst of your pseudo-postulating I assume you missed the part where I said we shouldn't ban guns, right? Like, WAY before whatever *this* is started.

And I suppose you forgot my question of "when was the last time you ever had to use your conceal and carry weapon"... probably because you haven't. Which is cool, because I have some Chuck E Cheese tokens lying around somewhere. You know, in case I ever need to use them.

I like Chuck E Cheese ....... took my kids there all the time ......
 

Dave_W

The Dude
The truth about guns bought for protection is an ugly truth. People will buy a gun because they're worried about their safety and it seems like a good idea but more often than not the gun is taken away by the perpetrator and home owner is shot with it. I can now predict the replies to this post saying "you should never point a gun at someone unless you're ready to fire it" and I agree. But I also can site many examples of people shooting their kids or spouse because they wake up to a noise and the minute they see someone they start firing.

Don't fool yourself, folks. Owning a gun gives you a false sense of security.

The bottom line is this - Bad things happen to good people and if you live your life constantly worried about all the potential bad things that can happen to you then you've wasted a perfectly good life. I own a gun and I would not hesitate to use it, if needed, but I do not delude myself into thinking I'm any safer with the gun than without the gun. It is one thing to prepare for a disaster, it's a whole other thing to dwell on it. I refuse to live a life of fear of what might happen, life is simply too short.
 

JPar

Senior Member
The truth about guns bought for protection is an ugly truth. People will buy a gun because they're worried about their safety and it seems like a good idea but more often than not the gun is taken away by the perpetrator and home owner is shot with it. I can now predict the replies to this post saying "you should never point a gun at someone unless you're ready to fire it" and I agree. But I also can site many examples of people shooting their kids or spouse because they wake up to a noise and the minute they see someone they start firing.

Don't fool yourself, folks. Owning a gun gives you a false sense of security.

The bottom line is this - Bad things happen to good people and if you live your life constantly worried about all the potential bad things that can happen to you then you've wasted a perfectly good life. I own a gun and I would not hesitate to use it, if needed, but I do not delude myself into thinking I'm any safer with the gun than without the gun. It is one thing to prepare for a disaster, it's a whole other thing to dwell on it. I refuse to live a life of fear of what might happen, life is simply too short.

Oh stop. Now you're starting to sound like Hitler. ;)
 
I can't quote the earlier post because I am on my phone. But. We all need to be careful in quoting facts. Someone stated that in the US we have 88 guns per person This was stated several times but in the link it clearly states 90 guns per 100 people. This is less than 1 gun per person.
 
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Dave_W

The Dude
I can't quote the earlier post because I am on my phone. But. We all need to be careful in quoting facts. Someone stated that in the US we have 88 guns per person This was stated several times but in the link it clearly states 90 guns per 100 people. This is less than 1 gun per how are you I was deleting that's why love the cold and the wood closes up for you person.

I'm not really sure what the bulk of your post means but I was the one that posted those numbers. It depends on what your source is as to how many guns per person exist in the US. One source says 88 per person, the other says 90. With a difference of +/- 2 guns, I'd say the two agree nicely.

The second sentence in your post has me very confused...
 

Eye-level

Banned
Today in France...a British registered car...3 of 4 deceased victims shot in the head execution style...2 little girls in the hospital one with 3 bullet wounds now in a medically induced coma...perhaps 6 deaths total in this one...a family and a bicyclist who happened to wonder by.

Wonder if the "British" plates had anything to do with the robbers decision to stalk that particular car? Or was it maybe motivated by the fact that the people were foreigners likely Muslims?
 

fotojack

Senior Member
"This is less than 1 gun per how are you I was deleting that's why love the cold and the wood closes up for you person." <----- this was by tracsoft.

Could you explain this sentence, trac? Doesn't make any sense to me! :)
 
I have no idea where that last sentence came from. It did not make any sense to me either. I corrected it on my original post.

88 or 90 guns per person is an outrageous number. That would be a crazy population in any place. This is the kind of misconception that makes the US look bad. I have prob ably 5 or six guns so that is 5 or six other people that do not have any. Why do UI have that many guns? I like them. I have one that lives in my truck that I drive to work. I go in at 4:30am in a less than safe neighborhood. In fact it is in the middle of a very large cemetery. (It is a TV station) I have others that are just fun to shoot (22LR so it is cheap) I have a shotgun and a 9mm for home protection and a pocket pistol that I have for conceal carry on those time when I feel it necessary. What am i afraid of? Absolutely nothing.
Doh!!! I stand corrected. Nevertheless, it is the one of the highest in the world. But yes, you're right.
 
I have no idea either. This was on my phone so all I can think of was that a copied sentence got inserted some how. I don't remember anything that it would have fit in though. I am old though so the brain is not always firing on all cylinders.

"This is less than 1 gun per how are you I was deleting that's why love the cold and the wood closes up for you person." <----- this was by tracsoft.

Could you explain this sentence, trac? Doesn't make any sense to me! :)
 

Pierro

Senior Member
Don't fool yourself, folks. Owning a gun gives you a false sense of security.
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But yet you still keep one, despite the problems you associate with owning one. Why not get rid of it ? At least the US has the right to choose whether to keep a gun for home defence, and you chose to have one, so it obviously does make you feel safer.

I'd like the choice too. At the moment, the best i can do is hit some perp with a non stick frying pan. Well yes, they can still hurt someone but it means i gotta get close enough to use it. Same with a baseball bat, though the law would take a dim view of owning one, as it could well look like it was kept at home for defence. One would have to buy the big clowns glove and ball to make it look innocent.

Personally, i'd prefer to deal with scum from a distance, but i dont get the choice.
 

Rick M

Senior Member
This all really comes down to why we need Magnesium Alloy camera bodies. We can take a picture of the intruder than hit them over the head with our camera , killing them without damage to our equipment! Nikon is a step ahead :)
 

Dave_W

The Dude
But yet you still keep one, despite the problems you associate with owning one. Why not get rid of it ? At least the US has the right to choose whether to keep a gun for home defence, and you chose to have one, so it obviously does make you feel safer.

I do not have a gun for safety. I bought it so I could teach my kids how to handle and shoot a gun. I think it's important to instill the proper respect for guns and to teach them that it's not a toy like on TV but a real weapon that can kill for real. Too many kids fail to respect the power of a gun. They see people in the movies get shot and then 10 mins later are all better again and this is one of the biggest reasons they shoot each other so easily. They do not grasp the one directional dimension that guns really are.
 

Eye-level

Banned
This all really comes down to why we need Magnesium Alloy camera bodies. We can take a picture of the intruder than hit them over the head with our camera , killing them without damage to our equipment! Nikon is a step ahead :)

I guarentee you if I get one good shot to the head with my F2 they are going down...and I will still be able to take a picture afterwards! :)
 

TedG954

Senior Member
I do not have a gun for safety. I bought it so I could teach my kids how to handle and shoot a gun. I think it's important to instill the proper respect for guns and to teach them that it's not a toy like on TV but a real weapon that can kill for real. Too many kids fail to respect the power of a gun. They see people in the movies get shot and then 10 mins later are all better again and this is one of the biggest reasons they shoot each other so easily. They do not grasp the one directional dimension that guns really are.

Excellent point.

This is also why hiding a loaded gun is also a bad idea. At 4 years old, I first showed my son a handgun. I told him what it was and what dangers it held. I also told him he could hold it whenever he wanted to, as long as he asked me first. This took all the mystery out of the gun.

When he was old enough, I took him shooting whenever he wanted to go (which wasn't often). Not once has he ever touched any of my guns without asking. When you hide a gun away from the child, it creates a wonder. That's how children are involved in shooting accidents. Their curiosity is powerful. Take the mystery away, and they couldn't care less.
 
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