Facebook is never going to show a sharp image. The compression just isn't going to allow it.
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Facebook is never going to show a sharp image. The compression just isn't going to allow it.
mesess if you zoom I a little on he images you will see the detail loss. I say to you what I say to eyelight, o to www.facebook.com/chrishwkinsfineartphotography.com and compare my shots from there to my shots on here
www.facebook.com/chrishawkinsfineartphotography is the correct address
I think your shot is as good as theirs if not better as far as detail. Their scene is all wet which does add some perceived depth. Everything's better when wet you know
. Seriously though, not bad at all.
I'm not so sure about that. In my honest opinion I couldn't really tell the different between you waterfall/stream shots on there and the one Dragan edited except for maybe the saturation was a little more green. The sharpness is similar. Like I sated before, on the D3200 you're not going to get a razor sharp image with the kit lens.
I struggle all the time with the question, "Is this photo clean enough, clear enough, etc.", but all comes down to where it will live out it's life. How does it look if you set the image size on your screen to equivalent A2 size and look at it from the same distance you would view a print? Will not be the same due to screen resolution and effect of the back light, but I bet it looks good.
The kit 18-55 lens is an under rated lens. It is quite sharp, though not as much as better primes. Here are two shots, with D3300, 18-55, I took last week - hand held. The scene mode was changed to "Vivid".
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As you can see the resolution is there. If the shot was taken on tripod with a better lense, it could have been sharper.
One think to note is that the D3xxx bodies have no "mirror up" mode, hence unless the tripod and the camera mounted on it are rock stable you may get camera shake.
Full frame
100%
As you can see the resolution is there. If the shot was taken on tripod with a better lense, it could have been sharper.
One think to note is that the D3xxx bodies have no "mirror up" mode, hence unless the tripod and the camera mounted on it are rock stable you may get camera shake.
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Could we consider aroy's pics as an example of what an overabundance of megapixels can do?
I have a D3200 and been looking back at photos. I believe the weak link is the kit lens and maybe only at certain apertures away from the lens' sweet spot. Not a bad lens, but everything has a limitation.
This may sound backwards, but from what I have researched, diffraction probably does not come into play with these lenses. Quoted from CiC, "Diffraction therefore limits total sharpness only when using a sturdy tripod, mirror lock-up and a very high quality lens."
Note: Live View does raise the mirror on the D3200.
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[MENTION=24406]Iron lung[/MENTION], I read the earlier thread before you acquired the ND filters. Have you made any shots using Live View. Live View is essential for the sharpest detail achievable with a D3200. Otherwise the movement of the mirror is like a small earthquake.
I didn't say that the 18-55 wasn't sharp I just said that it's not going to produce razor sharp images on the D3200. Like I said, it's common knowledge that the 18-55 is a limiting factor on the D3200 and will never allow you to get what the camera is capable of. Sure it's a very underrated lens, it's just not the best lens on this particular camera.
The "Mirror Up" in live view is only for live view. When you shoot, the mirror comes down, then goes up and the shutter fires. So instead of one mirror movement you get two. What is required is for the mirror to go up, then pause for the shake to subside and then fire the shutter - this is there in the higher level bodies, but absent, at least in the D3xxx series.
@aroy , thanks for the correction.
Hmmm. One of Nikon's tutorials indicates to use live view and I assumed part of the reason was holding the mirror up, but listening to my D3200, it does seem to have 2 mirror movements, though the viewfinder stays dark, which seems odd if the mirror is dropping. If the D3200 does not pause to let the shake subside, that could be part of the issue for the shots in question.
MinInMission
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I am interested in the "mirror" thing myself.
Back in the beginning, I shot film. I, of course, used a viewfinder. I still feel comfortable using a 'finder.
But, if this is the case, then using the display is the way to go. I am going to investigate a bit more. Still learning about this camera (3200).
I expect to be using the standard 28-55mm lense as the standard "walking around". I got a 55-300 as part of the deal.
Back in the beginning, I shot film. I, of course, used a viewfinder. I still feel comfortable using a 'finder.
But, if this is the case, then using the display is the way to go. I am going to investigate a bit more. Still learning about this camera (3200).
I expect to be using the standard 28-55mm lense as the standard "walking around". I got a 55-300 as part of the deal.
Er the noise is the shutter closing to take the shot, not the mirror going up and down....It has to close so it can open t take the shot.
As to using the D3200, I have no trouble with sharpness (though I mainly use primes). I have ben using the beast for two years now, and if I look at my early photos there were some problems, but practice and perseverance with my camera technique has improved my image quality.
Recent shots hand held:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/england78/14038628815/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/england78/13982565181/
Tripod shot, 5shos to create a panorama:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/england78/10784979345/
As to using the D3200, I have no trouble with sharpness (though I mainly use primes). I have ben using the beast for two years now, and if I look at my early photos there were some problems, but practice and perseverance with my camera technique has improved my image quality.
Recent shots hand held:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/england78/14038628815/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/england78/13982565181/
Tripod shot, 5shos to create a panorama:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/england78/10784979345/
I am certain this is probably the case. I know when the live view is activated the mirror pops up. If the shutter also opens, and then closes to make the shot possible, then this must be a slower method of taking a picture. This equals missed shots to me.
Horoscope Fish
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Missing shots would seem to imply you're thinking this option would be used while shooting hand-held which, to my understanding is not the case at all; mirror lock-up is a step for maximizing sharpness by minimizing camera vibration. Typically I use mirror lock-up in conjunction with a tripod and a wireless release for landscape shots or long-exposure shooting.
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Its how all live view shots work, the shutter covers the sensor, so to get live view you have to open the shutter. You use this method of shooting when you want the ultimate quality, not speed, use the viewfinder for continuous shots, especially when using auto focus, as the live view contrast detection is also slower than when using the viewfinder and the standard auto focus.
Englischdude
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are you activating the shutter by hand or using the self timer or a remote? the tiniest amount of movement will result in reduction in sharpness. Also make sure your tripod is weighted down, many tripods offer a hook on the bottom of the mast for this purpose. Was it a windy day? is it possible that wind could have resulted in movement of the camera?
Ahhh! So live view isn't designed for everyday hand held use? I never use it so I wasn't sure. I though it was just another way to use the camera for people who didn't like using the viewfinder or when using the camera for motion video.
I toyed with it a few minutes ago and I definitely don't like it. Might try it for some tripod macro shots one day.
However, my D90 has a mirror lock up option that does not require Live View.
I toyed with it a few minutes ago and I definitely don't like it. Might try it for some tripod macro shots one day.
However, my D90 has a mirror lock up option that does not require Live View.