I believe I've finally hit the wall on my D600

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Rick M

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I'm not going to send mine in unless the problem is isolated and a fix is certain. I think this is a hit and mis tactic by Nikon. Throwing a new shutter in sounds great, but it seems like a bandaide. I'd rather clean it every few months now that it's diminishing on mine. I'm not going to let the dust make me dislike the D600, but it's making it easy to dislike Nikon due to the approach they are taking. They know what is wrong, but it will cost too much to admit it.
 
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Ironwood

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I was another one who was intent on upgrading to a D600, I was hoping this problem would be sorted out and fixed by the time I had the funds to buy one.
Its very disapointing that it is still an issue.
After thinking about what I want from a camera and where my photography is at the moment, I have now decided I will get a D7100 instead, it seems to be mostly trouble free.
I was in the local camera shop yesterday looking to check prices, and got talking to another guy who was there looking at a D600, he was unsure if he actually wanted to go ahead with the purchase because of the same issue, he wanted what the camera could offer him, but didnt want the hassles that seem to go with it. He ended up walking out without the camera.
 
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Moab Man

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I'm another one that down the road was considering a D600. I started with my D5100 because I knew I needed capable, but that I had a lot to learn and to learn about different Nikon models before coming to a final decision. Nikon has taught me to stay away from the D600.
 
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WhiteLight

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I think people raise a protest or something.
It's quite unacceptable cos Nikon knows that even though the D600 bombed, people would still not jump ship.
cos most of the folks who own a D600 would have invested quite a lot of money on expensive glass & other equipment most of which are Nikon exclusives.

I've said this before, i'm saying this again, it's really a big shame Nikon.
Most people admired the brand for the values it holds along with the quality of its product.
Unfortunately both have fallen terribly in this incident.
Better late than never Nikon, admit your mistake and fix it.
 
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Cowboybillybob1

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I have to think that Nikon is not sure what the problem is otherwise they would fix it the first time. I know that I would be a lot more ticked off than Jake seems to be. He is just too nice a guy.
 
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gqtuazon

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WhiteLight said:
I've said this before, i'm saying this again, it's really a big shame Nikon.
Most people admired the brand for the values it holds along with the quality of its product.
Unfortunately both have fallen terribly in this incident.
Better late than never Nikon, admit your mistake and fix it.
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I had my time of being bitter but it's not going to change anything. The other camp is not producing anything better or new that has comparable specs and cheaper price.
 
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98kellrs

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I disagree, I think they have the resources to figure out exactly what the problem is, but are unable to solve it without redesigning the body.

Its not all bad news for them, I think a lot of people, especially the more serious buyers, will just save for longer and go for the D800 (myself included).

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Rick M

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This is not enough to steer me away from Nikon, just a disappointment. This reminds me of car issues before mandatory recalls, cheaper to deal with law suits than fix the problem. I really do feel they know whats wrong, how many years have they been making cameras? How could they not? With all that said, I like this camera so much that I would buy it again. If Nikon comes out with another Fx version, I would probably trade it in for the upgrade. For now I'm not going to let the dust and Nikon's attitude ruin my fun, it's still and awesome camera, I've become one with the dust :)
 
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Marcel

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Rick M said:
This is not enough to steer me away from Nikon, just a disappointment. This reminds me of car issues before mandatory recalls, cheaper to deal with law suits than fix the problem. I really do feel they know whats wrong, how many years have they been making cameras? How could they not? With all that said, I like this camera so much that I would buy it again. If Nikon comes out with another Fx version, I would probably trade it in for the upgrade. For now I'm not going to let the dust and Nikon's attitude ruin my fun, it's still and awesome camera, I've become one with the dust :)
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They've been making cameras for years "in Japan". Now do you think all their parts are made in Japan…? NO. Like all major companies that want to make more money, they are subcontracting to Chinese manufacturers. There are problems in China with quality control since their work force is very migrant. Another shop opens two doors away and they offer 10 cents more per hour, they loose manpower. For a toaster or blender manufacturing company this has not too much impact, but for a product that requires precision and very careful assembly there could be problems. I think this is what we are seeing.

But, I've been wrong before. But I've been right sometimes too.

Bottom line for me is that this "problem" is not my end of the world and I accept the product and will keep using it and I'll take care of the once in a while wet cleaning. I'm rarely shooting anything at f16 since it's not sharper at that f-stop because of refraction. As long as I don't see stuff around f8, I'm good.
 
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jdeg

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It seems like there is more than one problem with the design of the D600 shutter, and a new shutter isn't going to solve the problem without a complete redesign.

In the meantime maybe they should start replacing D600 shutters with D800 bodies :)
 
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BackdoorArts

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I certainly wouldn't complain if they did, though I would love it if they stuck the D600 sensor in it. I don't need two 36MP cameras filling up my hard drive.
 
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Keoki

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I'm getting ready to send my D600 back to Nikon. They told me to email them a jpeg of the sensor dust/oil...whatever and they will send me a shipping label so I don't have to pay shipping. They said they would expedite the repair so I should have my camera back 1 week after they receive it. I was shocked to see over 50 specks of sensor junk when I looked at an image on a large screen. I'm pretty sure I didn't have that much when I got my camera in Dec. and it's getting worse.
 
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Bukitimah

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I am reading this same issue here in Singapore and it seems the d600 does have a design inherent problem. What surprise me is that Nikon did not officially provides a solution or did they?

I would have imagine they should recall all and replace whatever required or there is simply no solution? I for one will avoid this model till it has been cleared by users. :(
 
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BackdoorArts

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Well, on Friday I was promised 24 hour turn around on an answer to my "When is this going to be done?!" question. That's 3 days and 24 hours worth of a business day and no response.

Just saying. Less pleasant phone calls will be made tomorrow.
 
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Cowboybillybob1

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I wonder if Nikon is aware of the number of users that are aware of and/or affected by this flaw. Word gets around quickly and I am sure it has hurt sales and their reputation. There is no excuse for "Jake to be treated the way he has.

The only think I can think of is that the Japanese have a long tradition of pride, to the point that they never admit when they are wrong. Their history with automotive recalls are legendary. The only difference here is that a dirty sensor does not result in death while faulty brakes or steering do.
I do hope I am not being racist by this last comment.

Fight the good fight Jake and let me know if I can be of any help.
 
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