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    Is Oz the canary in the coalmine for film?

    I've read reports out of Australia that 35mm slide film has went through the roof and is hard to find and very costly to develop. One report is of Kodak 100 bringing 21 bucks a roll...

    I would assume they have the same sort of supply channels as anyone else maybe they are at the end of the road?

    So perhaps this is the future of film within the next few years...20 bucks a roll!!!???


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    I had some friends here that were from Scotland, it was cheaper to buy rolls of film over there and get them sent here, same with prints, they'd send exposed rolls home and prints sent back.

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    Re: Is Oz the canary in the coalmine for film?

    It was my understanding "Slide Film" was dead, Kodak stop making it a year ago if not longer. The only place in the US that did process it no longer processes it. As for out of country, I don't know.
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    Re: Is Oz the canary in the coalmine for film?

    That is interesting buckton...I wonder why that is??? I'm mean jeez it is cheaper to buy and have it shipped from Scotland - do they have something against the film users of ???

    Rick you are thinking of Kodachrome sir...mama took it away last year...but there are many other types of slide films available...it is a real PITA to get slide film developed though...cost per roll from start to finish for regular old film about 12 bucks per roll...slide film about 20-25 buck per roll...if it goes up to 21 dollars for a roll then that means it will cost about 50 bucks to shoot and develop a roll of said slide film...about a buck forty or something a snap..high dollar!

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    I guess its because you can get 10c prints at digital kiosks, so everyone ran out and bought digital cameras and digital is approaching the resolution of 35mm so professionals aren't using it as much anymore, niche market, high Aussie dollar makes importing cheap so that's not a factor. I was just talking about regular 35mm film before too.

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    Re: Is Oz the canary in the coalmine for film?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eye-level View Post
    That is interesting buckton...I wonder why that is??? I'm mean jeez it is cheaper to buy and have it shipped from Scotland - do they have something against the film users of ???
    Well, don't forget that these film companies usually have authorized distributors for other countries. Now, we'd like to think that these distributors are there to supply us with products, but, they are there for their profit, to make a buck. So, they control the market and can charge whatever they want for the product since they control the market. And you know what, I think Nikon is part of this game too. Why do you think they fight the grey market so so much? To make more money. I think Nikon was slapped by some justice dept in europe because they didn't allow people to buy Nikons in other countries (I just read that in, I don't know where, another forum.
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    Re: Is Oz the canary in the coalmine for film?

    This just reported in the UK...the #1 film chemistry outfit in the UK - Boots - is shutting down over 150 minilabs and apparently is no longer going to process film...this has already been happening in America for a few years now at all sorts of drugstores and grocery stores...some how I get this image in my head of a small whirlpool in the sink drain...
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    Re: Is Oz the canary in the coalmine for film?

    Film is not dead and positives like fuji velvia are not dead. Velvia killed most of Kodaks slide film because velvia is better at rendering color. What I see dying is 35 mm which was primarily used by print journalism. Everyone else was using medium format or larger. It cost $8 to develop a roll of velvia using the pre paid mailers you purchase if you purchase them when you purchase your film from an outfit like B&H. I don't see film totally being replaced till you see a medium format digital back for less than $5000 once that happens its a very real possibility.

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    Re: Is Oz the canary in the coalmine for film?

    Quote Originally Posted by SamSpade1941 View Post
    Film is not dead and positives like fuji velvia are not dead. Velvia killed most of Kodaks slide film because velvia is better at rendering color. What I see dying is 35 mm which was primarily used by print journalism. Everyone else was using medium format or larger. It cost $8 to develop a roll of velvia using the pre paid mailers you purchase if you purchase them when you purchase your film from an outfit like B&H. I don't see film totally being replaced till you see a medium format digital back for less than $5000 once that happens its a very real possibility.
    Try finding Velvia 3200 iso, try so shoot HDR with film, try go see your shot right after it's done. Film is still around, yes, but is it still practical? I vote no. But I'm keeping my Hasselblad for the day a full 6x6 digital back is available for under the price of a D800. I'm not holding my breath on this one.
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    Re: Is Oz the canary in the coalmine for film?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel View Post
    Try finding Velvia 3200 iso, try so shoot HDR with film, try go see your shot right after it's done. Film is still around, yes, but is it still practical? I vote no. But I'm keeping my Hasselblad for the day a full 6x6 digital back is available for under the price of a D800. I'm not holding my breath on this one.
    You make some very valid points sir and I don't disagree, but slide film is not about shooting in near dark conditions at fast exposures. Camera equipment are all wrenches in a tool box and everything has its place. I will not lies many years ago when I worked at the news paper I would have killed for a D40 or any other DSLR for that matter. The ability to shoot the image and then immediately preview the image is awesome. Its even nicer to not have to wait for the images to come from the dark room and wait for prints to dry.

    However the technical quality is not there yet with for digital cameras to totally replace film either. There are still a lot of professionals who are shooting medium and large format , there are just not a lot of professionals who are shooting 35mm anymore. It was the mainstay of newsprint journalism , when digital SLRs became practical they abandoned 35mm speed is the name of the game news paper journalism. People who have more lead time and need more technical quality can and do still use the larger formats of film. I would love to have a medium format digital camera as I primarily shoot landscapes but I also like living under a roof, for me the option is I probably can afford a used Mamiya , Bronica or Maybe Hassleblad at some point to shoot film. I can never afford to shoot a leaf or phase one back or even a D800 Nikon. I foresee a market for medium format film for sometime to come , I see a 35mm film market which very well may be dead in less than 15 years. JMTC nothing more.
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