Any Nikon AF FILM SLRs that leaves the leader out on rewind?

F & F2 Man

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My Q is the topic.
I just bought a nice AF lens in a Nikon Mount, but no f/stop ring. Thought I would get an AF BODY. BTW, I need to preload my film on developing reels before I put it in a changing bag.. Long story.
 

F & F2 Man

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I have one for my Konica FS-1, I am about 1 out 8 tries right now.. 😂

That's why I want a camera that has an option to leave the leader out.
 

480sparky

Senior Member
If you're souping your own film, why not just not rewind the film at all and open the camera in the dark when you're ready to load the film onto the spool?

Otherwise, the leader retrieval tool is your best bet.
 
I have one for my Konica FS-1, I am about 1 out 8 tries right now.. 

That's why I want a camera that has an option to leave the leader out.

All film cameras were designed to completely rewind the film so you would not accidently think it was a fresh roll of film and shoot it again. We would get people all the time that would not completely rewind the film and then load it back into the camera and shoot it again. The entire roll would be double exposed. The funny part was they would ask us to separate them so they could get all their important photos back.
 

Bob Blaylock

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Back when I was developing my own film, in the 1970s through 1990s, I always used a standard bottle opener (the type intended to remove the type of lids that were common on bottles of soda back then) to pry the end off of a film cartridge to get the film out. That is, unless I was using bulk film, which I loaded into reusable cartridges that were designed to be opened more easily than that.
 
That's easy to do!

Just run the roll through the developing process again! :encouragement:

We also had people that would fail to load the film correctly so if never actually went through the camera so none of it was exposed at all. they would scream at us saying we lost their photos. We had the film showing it was processes correctly and was never exposed. We would lose a customer over that.
 

480sparky

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We also had people that would fail to load the film correctly so if never actually went through the camera so none of it was exposed at all. they would scream at us saying we lost their photos. We had the film showing it was processes correctly and was never exposed. We would lose a customer over that.

How many would say they'd load the film, take some shots, then open the back and mark the film with a Sharpie, close it, take some more shots, then open the back again to see if the film had moved? Ever get that one?
 

F & F2 Man

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All film cameras were designed to completely rewind the film so you would not accidently think it was a fresh roll of film and shoot it again. We would get people all the time that would not completely rewind the film and then load it back into the camera and shoot it again. The entire roll would be double exposed. The funny part was they would ask us to separate them so they could get all their important photos back.

Not true...
I had a Contax AF RF that allowed the leader to be left on rewind, and the Canon EOS 1 has this option also, along some more EOS Canons.
There may others also from the 1980-90's

And a few compact P/S also had this option.

It was called a CUSTOM FUNCTION on these models.

It seems NONE of the Nikon AF bodies from early on never had this option, even though other brands did offer it in the same era.

BTW, I tear off the leader in an exposed film, so it easy to keep track of exposed and unexposed film. Leader = unexposed, NO Leader = exposed.
 

F & F2 Man

Senior Member
Back when I was developing my own film, in the 1970s through 1990s, I always used a standard bottle opener (the type intended to remove the type of lids that were common on bottles of soda back then) to pry the end off of a film cartridge to get the film out. That is, unless I was using bulk film, which I loaded into reusable cartridges that were designed to be opened more easily than that.

I tried that, when I had a proper darkroom... it took me over 20m to get the roll started in the Patterson Reels. :eek:
So, I opted to "Pre-load" about 6" in daylight, then cut the lights and finish it. (1/2 way around the first channel on the reel)
My motor skills are very bad with that kind of detail....
 

F & F2 Man

Senior Member
To answer original question there is a camera back for the F3 that leaves the leader out when using the MD-4 to rewind

Expect I just a Tamron 28-200 SD Nikon AF without an f/stop ring (G lens I think), So I need a proper Nikon AF to allow f/stop picks in A/S/M modes.
I was hoping the F100 had that option, It looks like the F4 is my option since it has a manual rewind knob and auto rewind option.
 

480sparky

Senior Member
..........BTW, I tear off the leader in an exposed film, so it easy to keep track of exposed and unexposed film. Leader = unexposed, NO Leader = exposed.

Silly me. And I still just wind up the leader into the cassette like a fool. :rolleyes: Leader = unexposed, no leader = exposed.
 

pendennis

Senior Member
My Q is the topic.
I just bought a nice AF lens in a Nikon Mount, but no f/stop ring. Thought I would get an AF BODY. BTW, I need to preload my film on developing reels before I put it in a changing bag.. Long story.
The Nikon F6 has a programmable feature that allows you to leave the leader out of the spool.
 

LouCioccio

Senior Member
89010002.jpgWhat I used to do when I developed my own with store bough film was while manually rewind the film I would put my ear to the back of the camera to listen for the "scraping" sound of the leader listening to when it was near the canister. Yes the pre-loaded cartridges were easier to open when I bought 100' 35mm bulk. Also remember to mark the leader if it was short roll as I did not from a roll in 1997 out at the Air Force Academy on our way back from Philmont BSA Ranch/School to Denver. I pulled that roll out because I had a wedding never remembering to mark the leader and found it a few months ago in back of my sock drawer. I sent it in to get develop it was ugly color shift along with some 120 film that I recently used.
Just my 2¢.
Lou Cioccio
 
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