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  1. #11
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    Re: Why so many bad copies?

    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedThrottle View Post
    I have heard about the bad copies of the 200-500 having to be sent back and forth several times. That's what scared me away from that lens and instead got the Sigma C 150-600. Having the ability to dial in exact focus at different focal lengths and at different distances for that particular lens/body combo using the dock allows more flexibility than just a global adjustment you are able to do with out the dock through the camera. I think they throw these lenses together with a certain expectation the end user should be able to dial it into their camera. The 200-500 has less options for obtaining the desired result but the in camera focus calibration should work for most people. The dock for the 150-600 may be too difficult for some users to figure out but if you spend the time to dial it in, it can also obtain sharp results too. Bottom line, its important to calibrate your lens to that particular body and understand how to best do that.
    Having calibrated the lens, I assume you are pleased with the results and how do you rate it at the 600mm end?


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    Peter

    D500
    D7100
    Tokina 11-16 f2.8
    Nikon 85mm 1.8G
    Nikon 300mm F4 AF-S
    Sigma 150-600c
    Lee filters
    My Flickr account - https://www.flickr.com/people/peter-young/



  2. #12
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    Re: Why so many bad copies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter7100 View Post
    Having calibrated the lens, I assume you are pleased with the results and how do you rate it at the 600mm end?
    Not having anything else to compare it to, I am happy with the results I get. When I got it, I didn't think it was sharp. After calibrating the lens through the dock, I do think its sharp. It's quite involved to dial it in though, running through all the distances at all the different focal lengths takes a considerable amount of time. The time invested was worth it to me. The only bummer I can think of is now that the lens is adjusted to preform on my D7500, its soft when on my Z6 using the FTZ adapter. A workaround would be to calibrate through the dock for both bodies and record the figures in the app. Then I would have to go through the app to adjust the figures to the body I want to use it on. So it has been dedicated to be used exclusively on the D7500 because that's too much effort and I really dont have a good reason to use that lens on the Z6 anyways. How do I rate it at the 600 end? Better than any of my other lenses at 600, LOL! (It's my only lens that goes past 300) But I cant crop any of my other lenses to be as sharp as what I can get with the 150-600 at 600, which is equal to 900 since I use it on the crop sensor. I would go and get this same lens if this one got dumped in the drink, I am that happy with it.
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    Camera- Z6, D800, D7500, D40x
    Zoom Lenses-
    Z- 14-30 f4, 24-70 f4 105 f2.8
    DX- Tokina 11-16 f2.8, Sigma A 18-35 f1.8, Nikon 18-140 f3.5-5.6
    FX- Tamron 15-30 f2.8, Nikon 35-70 f2.8, Nikon 80-200 f2.8, Nikon 24-120 f4, Nikon AF-P 70-300 f4.5-5.6 Sigma C 150-600 f5-6.3
    Prime Lenses- Nikon 50 f1.8g, Tamron 85 f1.8, Tokina 100 f2.8, Rokinon HD 8 f3.5

  3. #13
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    Re: Why so many bad copies?

    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedThrottle View Post
    Not having anything else to compare it to, I am happy with the results I get. When I got it, I didn't think it was sharp. After calibrating the lens through the dock, I do think its sharp. It's quite involved to dial it in though, running through all the distances at all the different focal lengths takes a considerable amount of time. The time invested was worth it to me. The only bummer I can think of is now that the lens is adjusted to preform on my D7500, its soft when on my Z6 using the FTZ adapter. A workaround would be to calibrate through the dock for both bodies and record the figures in the app. Then I would have to go through the app to adjust the figures to the body I want to use it on. So it has been dedicated to be used exclusively on the D7500 because that's too much effort and I really dont have a good reason to use that lens on the Z6 anyways. How do I rate it at the 600 end? Better than any of my other lenses at 600, LOL! (It's my only lens that goes past 300) But I cant crop any of my other lenses to be as sharp as what I can get with the 150-600 at 600, which is equal to 900 since I use it on the crop sensor. I would go and get this same lens if this one got dumped in the drink, I am that happy with it.
    Thanks for the detailed reply
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    Peter

    D500
    D7100
    Tokina 11-16 f2.8
    Nikon 85mm 1.8G
    Nikon 300mm F4 AF-S
    Sigma 150-600c
    Lee filters
    My Flickr account - https://www.flickr.com/people/peter-young/

  4. #14
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    Re: Why so many bad copies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Needa View Post
    I couldn't have any thing do do with photographic skill or post processing skills?
    This is the case 99.9% of the time for me.
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    Um yeahhhh, I shoot a lot of pics of my dogs.
    D500 (DOB 05/26/17), D300, D80, SB-800. RIP-D100
    Sigma 300mm f2.8, Sigma 150-600mm DG Contemporary, Sigma 50-150mm f2.8
    Tamron 28-75mm f2.8
    Nikkor Nifty-Fifty
    Tokina 11-20mm f2.8
    Bogen tripod with a missing screw and Bogen pistol grip that is eternally stuck on it.
    Manfrotto tripod with 3-axis Bogen head that is rusted stiff and drifts. About to be replaced.

  5. #15
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    Re: Why so many bad copies?

    One thing to keep in mind is Nikon is changing where its lenses/cameras are made. Hopefully it will be a move for the better as far as quality is concerned. Between that as well as COVID, that might be why there is such a delay on getting items to the dealers. But time will tell.
    Cindy - D750, D500, D7200
    My 2021 Thread

    Where the Spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art
    -- Leonardo da Vinci



  6. #16
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    Re: Why so many bad copies?

    In all seriousness, this is a good thread. I think most people have a difficult time deciding on equipment purchases based on online reviews. You will get the gambit from terrible to awesome with most items.
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    "Connected to the universe by way of the star-stuff within"


    Um yeahhhh, I shoot a lot of pics of my dogs.
    D500 (DOB 05/26/17), D300, D80, SB-800. RIP-D100
    Sigma 300mm f2.8, Sigma 150-600mm DG Contemporary, Sigma 50-150mm f2.8
    Tamron 28-75mm f2.8
    Nikkor Nifty-Fifty
    Tokina 11-20mm f2.8
    Bogen tripod with a missing screw and Bogen pistol grip that is eternally stuck on it.
    Manfrotto tripod with 3-axis Bogen head that is rusted stiff and drifts. About to be replaced.

  7. #17
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    Re: Why so many bad copies?

    I'm happy with my sigma c 150-600, and I do like the calibration feature as well. Also on the Sigma A 50-100mm.
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    D7500 / D7100 / N6006 / Nikon AF-S 35mm / Nikon AF 50mm / Sigma 17-50mm / Nikon AF-P FX 70-300mm / Tokina 11-16mm / Sigma C 150-600mm / Sigma A 50-100mm / Nikon AF-S 105mm Micro





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