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  1. #1
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    Picking Lenses for my trip to the Southern USA

    Picking Lenses for my trip to the Southern USA
    Heading down to Orlando and making my way north to Birmingham at the beginning of next month.

    I want to travel light. I'm leaning towards taking my 7100 and a few lenses.
    The DX 35mm 1.8 is a no brainer - too sharpe and takes up next to no room. May also tuck my 50mm 1.8 AF lens into a corner of my bag.
    My main walk about lens will be the Nikkor 16-85, I like it's performance, and range - and it is not that big or heavy.
    The stickler for me is the long lens. I'm not taking the 200-500mm ... Just too big (and too costly to risk on an airplane)

    My options:
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    Tamron 70-300 the "F 4-5.6 Di VC USD" version. It is an FX lens and weighs in at 1735 grams, it is the one mounted on the camera
    The smallest is the Nikkor DX 55-300 (1470 grams) and the 'tank' is a 70-200 2.8 VRI which came in at 2396 grams, or two pounds more than the smallest one.

    I took all three for a test run today shooting birds in my backyard (it was 25 below - my fingers were numb).
    I also tried all three with my Kenko 1.4 and 2.0 teleconverters. I double checked first to make sure no chance of glass to glass contact when the 55-300 was at 55 - it was fine. Both T.C.'s worked on all three lenses. Performance varied. The 2.0 on the 55-300 had too hard of a time focusing to be useful, better but still a bother on the 70-300, but the 70-200 took on the 2x TC without batting an eye and performed well at 400mm.

    So I can get to 400 or 300x1.4 or 420mm on all three lenses with at T.C. or two.
    T.C.'s are small (well the 2x is smallish) and I can find a corner for them in my luggage. It is just a bother to put them on and off.
    Of course they do degrade I.Q. and speed (both in F stops and focus speed).

    I wasn't surprised to find the 2.8 Tank out performed the other two easily. It also cost as much as the other two put together.
    But it is heavy.

    The surprise was in the marginal if any difference between the 55-300 and the 70-300. I had expected the Tamron to be better, but not really. It is an FX lens.
    So based on that do I go for the 55-300, enjoy a bit more room at the wide end and only have to slap on the 1.4 if really need to get to that 420mm?
    Or do I take the tank and get the best pictures I can get?

    Here are three samples from my trials today

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    Nikkor 70-200 2.8 with Kenko 2x TC


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    Tamron 70-300 with Kenko 1.4 TC

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    Nikkor 55-300 -
    This one is cropped a lot

    All three can do the job.
    I just need to pick one.
    The Tank - and say I just wanted to build some muscles while walking around the zoo, or the 55-300, enjoy the range and the light weight, and stop telling myself the pictures are 'good enough'.

    "Have you ever had to make up your mind, take one and leave the other behind??" hum it with me you oldies out there.


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    FKD Alberta Canada

    D500, D610, D7100, D5100

    Nikkor FX: AF 50 1.8,
    AFS 60 2.8, AFS 85 1.8, AFD 105 2.8, AFS 70-200 2.8 VRI, AFS 200-500 5.6.
    Nikkor DX: AFS 16-85 VR, AFS VR 55-300, AFS 35 1.8.
    Tamron: SP 24-70 2.8, SP 70-300 4-5.6, SP 17-35 2.8-4
    Tokina: ATX 11-20 2.8, Sigma: Art 50 1.4
    and a collection of Lensbabies
    Kenko 300 DGX 1.4X & 2X TC
    Godox AD360, AD200, 2 x V860, V350 SB-400, 600 & 700, Metz 58 AF2,
    and Benro Transfunctional Travel Angel to watch over me



  2. #2
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    Re: Picking Lenses for my trip to the Southern USA

    I also have toyed with the idea of dropping $429 and buying a Sigma 18-270 macro / superzoom and live with one lens. I've read good things about it.
    But doubt the IQ would be any better than the 55-300 Nikkor and I have the 16-85mm going. Only advantage is no lens swapping while walking about the attractions. Hmmmm
    FKD Alberta Canada

    D500, D610, D7100, D5100

    Nikkor FX: AF 50 1.8,
    AFS 60 2.8, AFS 85 1.8, AFD 105 2.8, AFS 70-200 2.8 VRI, AFS 200-500 5.6.
    Nikkor DX: AFS 16-85 VR, AFS VR 55-300, AFS 35 1.8.
    Tamron: SP 24-70 2.8, SP 70-300 4-5.6, SP 17-35 2.8-4
    Tokina: ATX 11-20 2.8, Sigma: Art 50 1.4
    and a collection of Lensbabies
    Kenko 300 DGX 1.4X & 2X TC
    Godox AD360, AD200, 2 x V860, V350 SB-400, 600 & 700, Metz 58 AF2,
    and Benro Transfunctional Travel Angel to watch over me

  3. #3
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    Re: Picking Lenses for my trip to the Southern USA

    Well if it were me I'd be taking the D500 with the 200-500
    Here's what I'm taking to Florida
    D7200
    D5100
    Sigma 150-500
    Tamron 70-200
    Tamron 90mm
    Nikon 18-105
    Nikon 35mm
    Nikon sb700
    tripod
    flash triggers
    Better Beamer
    ETC
    Nikon D7200
    Nikon D7100 (she's Dead)
    Nikon D5100
    Nikon 300 f4
    Nikon 55-300
    Nikon 18-105
    Nikon 35mm f1.8 DX
    Tamron 90 f2.8 macro
    Sigma 10-20 f3.5
    Sigma 150-500

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    Re: Picking Lenses for my trip to the Southern USA

    simple - d610 and rent a do it all lens. You have time to try different lens. This will cost less than buying a lens which you might not like.
    Simple+ - d610 your 70-300 and rent a 24-120mm f4.
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    Re: Picking Lenses for my trip to the Southern USA

    D500, D610, D7100, D5100

    Nikkor FX: AF 50 1.8,
    AFS 60 2.8, AFS 85 1.8, AFD 105 2.8, AFS 70-200 2.8 VRI, AFS 200-500 5.6.
    Nikkor DX: AFS 16-85 VR, AFS VR 55-300, AFS 35 1.8.
    Tamron: SP 24-70 2.8, SP 70-300 4-5.6, SP 17-35 2.8-4
    Tokina: ATX 11-20 2.8, Sigma: Art 50 1.4
    From this list that is in your sig, I would take the following if I wanted to travel light in the south.

    The D500. {if I couldn't take my 200-500mm lens due to weight issues, then I would definitely take the crop sensor D500}
    There will be lots of opportunities for bird shooting and the 70-300 will leave you a little short on the D610.

    The Tokina 11-20. (since taking the D500, You're going to need this lens for landscapes to get a really nice wide perspective.

    Now that you have both ends of the spectrum covered, all you need to worry about is something in the middle for a nice walk around lens.
    Nikkor 20mm f/2.8 AF-D
    Nikkor 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5-D
    Nikkor 50mm f/1.8-D
    Nikkor 24-120mm f/4 VR
    Nikkor 70-200mm F/2.8 VR I
    Nikkor 200-500mm f/5.6 VR
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    Re: Picking Lenses for my trip to the Southern USA

    Why do you have both a Nikon 55-300mm and Tamron 70-300mm? What I'd do is to sell both of them and put the money towards a Nikon 70-300mm VR that's been out for years. You can probably find a nice, clean, pre-owned one. Guaranteed it would outperform both of these although I don't think the IQ with a Kenko tele could be all that great.

    Question for you regarding your editing...are you using any type of color noise reduction? In Lightroom and ACR, you have the option to adjust the noise as well as the color noise. I found that really helps with my D7100 images. There is some color splotchiness in your images that should be able to be cleaned up somewhat (saying that as I've had my fair share of color noise with my D7100).

    Hope you can come up with a decision that will allow you the best results in a light-weight gear bag!
    Cindy
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    My 2018 Thread
    Where the Spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art
    -- Leonardo da Vinci



  7. #7
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    Re: Picking Lenses for my trip to the Southern USA

    thanks for all the comments
    will let you know what lenses make the cut.
    FKD Alberta Canada

    D500, D610, D7100, D5100

    Nikkor FX: AF 50 1.8,
    AFS 60 2.8, AFS 85 1.8, AFD 105 2.8, AFS 70-200 2.8 VRI, AFS 200-500 5.6.
    Nikkor DX: AFS 16-85 VR, AFS VR 55-300, AFS 35 1.8.
    Tamron: SP 24-70 2.8, SP 70-300 4-5.6, SP 17-35 2.8-4
    Tokina: ATX 11-20 2.8, Sigma: Art 50 1.4
    and a collection of Lensbabies
    Kenko 300 DGX 1.4X & 2X TC
    Godox AD360, AD200, 2 x V860, V350 SB-400, 600 & 700, Metz 58 AF2,
    and Benro Transfunctional Travel Angel to watch over me

  8. #8
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    Re: Picking Lenses for my trip to the Southern USA

    Quote Originally Posted by hark View Post
    Why do you have both a Nikon 55-300mm and Tamron 70-300mm? What I'd do is to sell both of them and put the money towards a Nikon 70-300mm VR that's been out for years. You can probably find a nice, clean, pre-owned one. Guaranteed it would outperform both of these although I don't think the IQ with a Kenko tele could be all that great.

    Question for you regarding your editing...are you using any type of color noise reduction? In Lightroom and ACR, you have the option to adjust the noise as well as the color noise. I found that really helps with my D7100 images. There is some color splotchiness in your images that should be able to be cleaned up somewhat (saying that as I've had my fair share of color noise with my D7100).

    Hope you can come up with a decision that will allow you the best results in a light-weight gear bag!

    "Why do you have both a Nikon 55-300mm and Tamron 70-300mm?" I have DX and FX, the 70-300 was added when I got my D610, the 55-300 was the kit lens with the D5100.

    Sell a lens, never done that. Traded my 200-400 Tamron in on my 200-500 Nikkor but shouldn't have. Didn't get enough for it, but I had bought it real cheap too. I've given some away to my daughter-in-law and will get to play with those again when visiting them in Alabama.

    Colour Noise Reduction - have to learn about that. I use Corel and DoX and others but not an Adobe user.

    I do like the way DoX can clean up images, and I have a few plug ins that have noise reduction features to look into. I see the in the NIK Collection there is colour noise reduction. Will look into more.
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    FKD Alberta Canada

    D500, D610, D7100, D5100

    Nikkor FX: AF 50 1.8,
    AFS 60 2.8, AFS 85 1.8, AFD 105 2.8, AFS 70-200 2.8 VRI, AFS 200-500 5.6.
    Nikkor DX: AFS 16-85 VR, AFS VR 55-300, AFS 35 1.8.
    Tamron: SP 24-70 2.8, SP 70-300 4-5.6, SP 17-35 2.8-4
    Tokina: ATX 11-20 2.8, Sigma: Art 50 1.4
    and a collection of Lensbabies
    Kenko 300 DGX 1.4X & 2X TC
    Godox AD360, AD200, 2 x V860, V350 SB-400, 600 & 700, Metz 58 AF2,
    and Benro Transfunctional Travel Angel to watch over me

  9. #9
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    Re: Picking Lenses for my trip to the Southern USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortkentdad View Post
    "Why do you have both a Nikon 55-300mm and Tamron 70-300mm?" I have DX and FX, the 70-300 was added when I got my D610, the 55-300 was the kit lens with the D5100.
    I forgot about one being DX and the other FX. I had the 55-200mm VR (DX) which I'm assuming is similar in IQ to your 55-300mm. There was such a huge difference between my 55-200mm VR (DX) and my 70-300mm VR (FX) that I never went back to the DX. I hope you didn't take my post as being critical...if you did, my sincere apology! I know how much you like to shoot. It took me a very long time to make the decision to sell some of my things. Even now there are lenses I don't use, yet I am hesitant to let them go. Maybe because I have such good memories using them.

    Since I had surgery on my right elbow many years ago, I don't like to carry really heavy lenses. Personally I wouldn't want to carry your 70-200mm VR. I have my own 70-200mm (that and my 300mm f/4 are close in weight). I feel for you! My only other suggestion would be to check out a holster if you decide to take that lens. I use a Think Tank belt and holster which is far more comfortable than a backpack or wearing the camera with a shoulder strap. Tough choice for sure!
    Cindy
    Flickr
    and
    My 2018 Thread
    Where the Spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art
    -- Leonardo da Vinci



  10. #10
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    Re: Picking Lenses for my trip to the Southern USA

    Going to try the 55-300 on the D500.
    I suppose if you have a D500 I need to get over being afraid to use it.

    I do have household insurance - will double check to make sure it is covered on a trip.

    While the 70-200 2.8 is premium - I'm afraid the weight would get to me.
    The DX lenses are all lighter and the 16-85 DX is probably my best walk about I have, but a bit short on the long end.
    The 55-300 can work as a walk about. I can manage to carry those two in my carry on bag, which I noticed today has been reduced from a 9" width to 6" width flying on Air Canada. That really limits the bags I can take.
    FKD Alberta Canada

    D500, D610, D7100, D5100

    Nikkor FX: AF 50 1.8,
    AFS 60 2.8, AFS 85 1.8, AFD 105 2.8, AFS 70-200 2.8 VRI, AFS 200-500 5.6.
    Nikkor DX: AFS 16-85 VR, AFS VR 55-300, AFS 35 1.8.
    Tamron: SP 24-70 2.8, SP 70-300 4-5.6, SP 17-35 2.8-4
    Tokina: ATX 11-20 2.8, Sigma: Art 50 1.4
    and a collection of Lensbabies
    Kenko 300 DGX 1.4X & 2X TC
    Godox AD360, AD200, 2 x V860, V350 SB-400, 600 & 700, Metz 58 AF2,
    and Benro Transfunctional Travel Angel to watch over me





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