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csgaraglino

Senior Member
Looking for some real-world experience/advice.

I have both a D810, D700 and D500 along with all the Pro Glass from 14mm to 500mm and I do well with them in most all scenarios that I put them - and then...

This past year my wife was diagnosed with Breast Cancer and then the threat of Uterine Cancer lead to an additional surgery - and while she is doing great (both caught early) it took a major toll on her physically and "slowed" down our outdoor activities. Not in frequency, but actually in speed; we went from cycling 20+ miles to walking/hiking 2+ miles.

Carrying a couple pro glass lenses 2, 4 even 6 miles under normal circumstances is no bid deal for most; do it at 10,000ft with 1,500+ ft of elevation gain - and it starts to wear on you.

So I'm looking for a "one size fits most" lens that I can carry in my backpack instead of the heavy 2.8 glass. While I am a realist and know that the sub $1,000 lenses are not going to stack up against pro glass, given the right conditions it seems that they can do quite well if used within their limitations. So here's the conditions I'll be shooting in:

These are hiking excursions for my wife first, and shooting second. We live in Colorado Springs at the base of Pikes Peak and with over a million acres of Pike National Forest, we have lots to explore in our own backyard. We will typically 4x4 in and use the truck as base, hikes will range form 2-6 miles in the beginning and over 15+ miles later in the summer/fall. Can start at 9,000-12,000ft and include anywhere from 500 to 2,500 ft of ascents. 95% of the time weather will be excellent with full sun. Hours will range between 9am and 6pm and hikes can last from 2-3 hrs. Colorado Mountains are full of incredible Granite outcropping, stunning high-mountain lakes, huge Aspen groves and more Pines than you can shake a stick at! Wildlife will range from small squirrels, wild Turkeys and 6 of the 7 Big Game animals (Elk, Moose and even Mountain Lion) and lets not forget the plethora of mountain birds; most all relatively slow moving or standing still.

This year I carried the 24-70mm and the 70-200mm on the D810 and weight aside, found myself “occasionally” looking for wider, but mostly looking for more reach. I have been spending several weeks pouring over all the reviews, opinions and samples and have narrowed it down to 3 Nikon VR lenses: 24-120mm f/4 w.1.4x TCII (I already have the TC), 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6 and the 18-300mm f/3.5-6.3. I should mention, I will be carrying the D500 a DX body for these hikes and I’m not worried about using these on my FX.

There is just too much conflicting reviews out there; some like Ken Rockwell - some don’t. Some like Photography Life, some don’t - etc. So I figured I’d drop the question here and ask those that actually have one or have used one or more of these lenses (or any other Nikon lens that might work) and can give me some insight into their performance under the scenarios that I mentioned above. I will say, Image Quality, especially sharpness is high on my list (yes like I mentioned, I understand these will not compare to pro glass) and most everything else I should be able to work within the limitations.

Thoughts?

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I have the 24-120 and love it on my D750 but I found on my D7100 I was wanting more wide angle. For what you are looking for I would suggest the 18-300. I normally do not like the super long zooms but it would work for what you are doing
 

RocketCowboy

Senior Member
With two full frame bodies and one crop, which body do you anticipate carrying most often?

For my travel setup, I've been carrying both the 24-120 and the 70-300. I find I use the 24-120 most of the time, and like Don mentioned...on a full frame body 24mm is usually wide enough (but not wide enough on something like the D7100/D500). I think you'd be happier with the 24-120 if you carry the D810 or D700, but the 18-300 might be best if carrying the D500 predominately.
 

csgaraglino

Senior Member
With two full frame bodies and one crop, which body do you anticipate carrying most often?

As mentioned - the D500.

And I am only looking for a Lens for hiking/biking scenarios - specifically a mountain lens that will not likely ever be used outside of the scenarios listed.
 
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Bikerbrent

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For my D7200, my go-to lightweight setup is my first generation Nikon 18-200mm and my Tokina 12-24mm f4 for wide angle. This kit packs fairly light and my 18-200mm, while not as sharp is my Nikon 80-200 f2.8 it works for me, take a look at my gallery for examples with these lenses.
 

Horoscope Fish

Senior Member
I don't have the lens, but know some that have the 18-300mm Tamron and love it.
I've had chances to shoot with the Tamron 18-300mm and I have to say it's the only lens of its kind I would consider owning. The IQ is, in my experience, far better than it should be for a lens with such broad focal range. I did get a lot of chromatic aberration (specifically purple) when shooting at wider apertures but it cleans up easily enough in post' if you know what you're doing. I was surprised at how sharp images were in the corners and at how little vignetting there was across the board.

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BackdoorArts

Senior Member
Some real life knowledge from me to you.

1. You cannot use a TC on the 24-120mm due to the rear element.
2. You're going to want 18mm on the short end with a DX camera. I bought the 28-300mm for a trip to Yosemite and wound up using the 18-105mm kit lens most of the time (a damn fine and inexpensive lens, btw).

No experience with the 18-300mm, but if you're not opposed to 2 lenses I will tell you that the 70-200mm f4 is nice and light for what it is and great on the D500 and the results with the 1.4X TC are very good. That and something that fills in the wide stuff for you would work. I don't have any shots with the 18-105mm on my D500 since it lives on my IR camera, but I could certainly shoot some. My only qualm with the lens is the plastic mount which could break if accidentally dropped or knocked when changing on a hike. One of these days I'll get around to changing mine to metal.
 

Patrick M

Senior Member
I've often taken long mountain hikes in the Spanish Pyrenees for photography breaks. I go there for the 4x4 events primarily. So I don't carry much gear. I find one good quality telephoto zoom is enough for most of my needs. I'm about to order the 200-500 which gets great reviewed too. D7100.
I like mountain landscapes, forest, plus wildlife - birds like eagles, etc


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TKC_D500

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I absolutely love the size, weight, and range of my first generation 28-200mm VR. That being said, it is the one lens I own that I struggle most to get Sharp images with my D500. On either of my D90s or my D300, it produced sharp images every time, so I'm struggling to figure out what the problem is. I would recommend you give this lens a look, but try it out first if you can.


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Zeke_M

Senior Member
If I don't know what to expect and I'm on foot, I take the Sigma 17-50 f2.8, AF-D nifty-fifty, and the 70-210 f4 AF.
The 70-210 is scarce however it does a nice job of filling in for the 70-200 f2.8.

This is my Chief of Security guarding the 70-210.

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RocketCowboy

Senior Member
If I don't know what to expect and I'm on foot, I take the Sigma 17-50 f2.8, AF-D nifty-fifty, and the 70-210 f4 AF.
The 70-210 is scarce however it does a nice job of filling in for the 70-200 f2.8.

This is my Chief of Security guarding the 70-210.

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How do you like that Siggy 17-50/2.8?


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Zeke_M

Senior Member
How do you like that Siggy 17-50/2.8?


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It's a very good lens. Fast and sharp.
In the landscape section there an image of Mt Rainer I took with it.
The above image was shot with the Sigma 17-50 and my lowly D3100
I highly recommend it.
 
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Ad B

Senior Member
Some real life knowledge from me to you.

1. You cannot use a TC on the 24-120mm due to the rear element.
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If you us a after market TC (like the Kenko DGX I had) it will fit and works wonderful.
I have sold the 24-120... Bought a Tammy 24-70 f2.8 and a Tammy 28-300 PZD lens.
Because I need a F2.8 lens more often and the 28-300 for traveling light with a good all-round, walk around lens.
Both better as the same Nikon lenses, but no in cam distortion control.
So I only work with NEF in PS. There I have all the controls I need.

 

csgaraglino

Senior Member
I decided to go with the Nikon 18-300mm DX and this is out-of-the-box first attempt on the D500 on a cloudy day and handheld.

I'm impressed and excited to put this thing trough its paces.

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