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    Re: Question on low light zoom D7100

    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence View Post
    Question for @Horoscope Fish (and sorry for hijacking the thread)

    Paul what is the difference between the Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 Di VC USD and the Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 Di LD (IF) Macro?
    I'll go and do some research but would be keen to hear your thoughts
    Well the big difference is the presence, or lack of, "VC", Vibration Control; it's the Tamron equivalent of Nikon's VR and Tamron's VC is really, really good. Nikon's VRII is probably as good but VRI I'm a little less impressed with. The other possibly "Big Thing" is that the macro version of this lens does NOT have an internal focus motor (that's the USD, UltraSonic Drive (or something like that)); no big deal if you're shooting a body with an internal AF motor but for those who are not that's probably a factor. Both lenses are "IF" (internal focus) so I'm not sure why one gets the IF designation and the other doesn't. The latter, obviously, also does 1:1 macro focusing while the VC version does not. In my limited experience with the Macro version, the AF is noticeably slower and the lens is also noiser. IQ is very, very good however on the Macro version and simply superb on the VC version.

    Hope that helps!
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  2. #12
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    Re: Question on low light zoom D7100

    I'll admit being a little biased towards Nikon glass; it's the reason I choose the platform in the first place. Measurements aren't always the defining criteria for how a lens looks.

    Don't get me wrong, Sigma has made a handful of superb lenses (I have a few), but a lot of duds too. I have also had some issues with newer Nikon bodies that required firmware updates (a real hassle).

    Never been a fan of Tamron; always looked soft and dull to me, though it appears some of their more current efforts are much, much better. 'Just haven't paid attention to them in quite a while.

    @john*thomas... any lens suggested here is going to be leaps and bounds over what you're currently using, so it is up to you to go look at some of them, take some shots on your body, and see which one handles/looks best to you. Any decent B&M shop will let you do this.
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  3. #13
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    Re: Question on low light zoom D7100

    Quote Originally Posted by Horoscope Fish View Post
    Well the big difference is the presence, or lack of, "VC", Vibration Control; it's the Tamron equivalent of Nikon's VR and Tamron's VC is really, really good. Nikon's VRII is probably as good but VRI I'm a little less impressed with. The other possibly "Big Thing" is that the macro version of this lens does NOT have an internal focus motor (that's the USD, UltraSonic Drive (or something like that)); no big deal if you're shooting a body with an internal AF motor but for those who are not that's probably a factor. Both lenses are "IF" (internal focus) so I'm not sure why one gets the IF designation and the other doesn't. The latter, obviously, also does 1:1 macro focusing while the VC version does not. In my limited experience with the Macro version, the AF is noticeably slower and the lens is also noiser. IQ is very, very good however on the Macro version and simply superb on the VC version.

    Hope that helps!
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    Thanks Paul for a comprehensive answer.

    I have the Tamron 90mm macro and am very pleased with it. As you say IQ is excellent.

    I think the VC one is the way to go as far as the 70-200 is concerned as that would mean a stop of two better (I assume) than the macro.

    I am shooting a D7100 so the internal focus motor might not be a problem except that I would want this lens for shooting birds in flight etc and speed is required.
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    Re: Question on low light zoom D7100

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottinPollock View Post
    I'll admit being a little biased towards Nikon glass; it's the reason I choose the platform in the first place. Measurements aren't always the defining criteria for how a lens looks.

    Don't get me wrong, Sigma has made a handful of superb lenses (I have a few), but a lot of duds too. I have also had some issues with newer Nikon bodies that required firmware updates (a real hassle).

    Never been a fan of Tamron; always looked soft and dull to me, though it appears some of their more current efforts are much, much better. 'Just haven't paid attention to them in quite a while.

    @john*thomas... any lens suggested here is going to be leaps and bounds over what you're currently using, so it is up to you to go look at some of them, take some shots on your body, and see which one handles/looks best to you. Any decent B&M shop will let you do this.
    My problem is there isn't any B&M shops within at least 2 hours of me. We once had a great one that had been in business forever but went out of business a few years ago. I'm not sure if there is even one in the state any longer. (WV)

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    Re: Question on low light zoom D7100

    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence View Post
    I think the VC one is the way to go as far as the 70-200 is concerned as that would mean a stop of two better (I assume) than the macro.
    I've read Tamron VC is good for up to four-stops. Yeah... FOUR stops. Not bad if it's true and while I can't confirm that from personal experience that's what I've read on some reliable sites (e.g. DP Review, etc.)
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  6. #16
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    Re: Question on low light zoom D7100

    Quote Originally Posted by john*thomas View Post
    My problem is there isn't any B&M shops within at least 2 hours of me. We once had a great one that had been in business forever but went out of business a few years ago. I'm not sure if there is even one in the state any longer. (WV)
    Can't help you there. I thought I was in the stix, being in the middle of the Sierra Nevada. But I can still drive an hour into Sacramento and hit up a couple of good camera stores.

    Guessing this is what we cause, supporting entities like Amazon over our local retailers.

  7. #17
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    Re: Question on low light zoom D7100

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottinPollock View Post
    I'll admit being a little biased towards Nikon glass; it's the reason I choose the platform in the first place. Measurements aren't always the defining criteria for how a lens looks.

    Don't get me wrong, Sigma has made a handful of superb lenses (I have a few), but a lot of duds too. I have also had some issues with newer Nikon bodies that required firmware updates (a real hassle).

    Never been a fan of Tamron; always looked soft and dull to me, though it appears some of their more current efforts are much, much better. 'Just haven't paid attention to them in quite a while.

    @john*thomas... any lens suggested here is going to be leaps and bounds over what you're currently using, so it is up to you to go look at some of them, take some shots on your body, and see which one handles/looks best to you. Any decent B&M shop will let you do this.
    Working in a decent B&M shop myself - one that has been around since 1928 and has seen 3 generations of the same family - I can assure you they don't mind but on the understanding that you will ultimately be buying from them.

    We tend to forget that these shops provide a level of expertise and experience with one-on-one consultation that is in many cases priceless - such as trying out lenses to see which is best. I am sure you can understand the frustration when after serving a client over a number of visits learning that he purchased hie gear online, for $50.00 or $100.00 less, after having based the buying decision on the knowledge they provided.

    Knowledge is gained over time; time is money
    Stock in shop has holding costs as well as all the other costs associated with running a B&M family business.

    If you abuse them and don't support them then soon there will be none left.

    Just saying ...

    And yes I too am guilty of having done this but intend to either buy from those who help me from now on or do my own research online and accept the consequences of my decision.
    (Oh how moral I feel)
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    EX Sigma 50-150mm f2.8 APO DC HSM OS
    Nikkor 80-200 f 2.8 D
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  8. #18
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    Re: Question on low light zoom D7100

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottinPollock View Post
    Never been a fan of Tamron; always looked soft and dull to me, though it appears some of their more current efforts are much, much better. 'Just haven't paid attention to them in quite a while.
    The latest versions of the 24-70 2.8 Di VC, 70-200 2.8 Di VC, and the 150-600 5-6.3 Di VC are outstanding pieces of glass at their price points - I was amazed at all three (tho I haven't done too much with the 150-600 - I just got it yesterday)....Nikon should pay very close attention because Tamron is right up there and at a much more affordable price point.
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  9. #19
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    Re: Question on low light zoom D7100

    I'm leaning towards the Tamron....now to find a good deal. Thanks.

  10. #20
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    Re: Question on low light zoom D7100

    I'm late to the discussion.

    I've been using the Tamron 70-200mm f2.8 VC on my D7100 since February this year. Indoor soccer & Hockey (horrible lighting). Finally had a chance to use it for night outdoor concerts this month. I really like it - nice value and better than a $1200 Nikon VR1 IMO.



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