Future of 35mm film cameras (AD 2013)

stvn

Senior Member
I have been visiting various forums/blogs on this issue but none are recent. I wonder what the latest view on this subject is and would be very interested to hear from someone who works in a processing lab or photographic shop what their view is. In the UK a major photography specialist retail chain has recently gone into administration (Jessops) which were very handy for fast turnaround in developing 35mm prints. Now we have to rely mainly on small specialist shops of which there are not too many around :(
 
I managed over 100 one hour labs at one time. Went form that to owning 2 large one hour labs / camera stores. This was a number of years ago and I saw the light then and sold out. I did go to work for the largest one hour chain in the nation at that time. They had over 750 locations. They started dropping like flies and I left there before they crashed. I don;'t think there are any major players in the game at all anymore. WalMart, and the drug stores still have labs but for the most part they are doing prints from digital. They still offer film but I really wonder how they can keep quality up at all. Most of these machines require volume to maintain quality.
Film processing and printing is expensive to get into and expensive to keep up. Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole now. Made a fortune on it in the day though.
 

Eye-level

Banned
Well I sold my best film camera if that tells you anything.

I have only one local lab that still does it in house and the manager informed me a couple of weeks ago that sometime this year they will start sending it out. It is now 9 bucks per roll to process 2 bucks for a cd.

The last pro grade roll of film I bought was expired and cost almost 7 bucks.

Maybe not next year, maybe not 3 years from now, but I think by 5 years from now for sure it will become way more trouble and way more expensive than it is worth.

The thing I would like to know is what it is going to do to the value of the "desired" camera bodies? Will they go way up there because of the "exclusitivity"?
 
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stvn

Senior Member
Hmm. I guess then that this is progress :confused: If developing options become so limited then the decline of 35mm can only accelerate and then the 'domino effect' will start.
 

Fred Kingston

Senior Member
A client of mine for the last 30 years had a Camera and Photo Lab here in Stuart... He closed both last year, somewhat because of health issues, but mostly because he had lost money the last few years... Tried to sell the lab to an interested buyer, as it was the only component that was profitable... Ultimately closed both when the buyer couldn't find financing... I have a couple of expired rolls of B&W400 sitting on my desk...and 1/2 a dozen film bodies gathering dust on the shelves... :sorrow:
 

Eye-level

Banned
Hmm. I guess then that this is progress :confused: If developing options become so limited then the decline of 35mm can only accelerate and then the 'domino effect' will start.

The dominoes started tumbling big time late last year with the demise of Kodak. All of the great/good film types are no longer made. Kodachrome etc. Fuji has discontinued a slew of their 135 and 120 stuff. Slide film is as good as gone and just try getting it processed once and see how your wallet likes it.
 

Eye-level

Banned
Used to you could shoot your film alongside your digital happily and you still can really and probably always will be able to but it is going to be a real PITA (maybe not so bad if you are B&W and processing yourself-but I hear that a lot of processing chemicals are becoming unavailable as well)
 

Eye-level

Banned
Get a F mount adapter and use it on your Nikon! Do they make them?

Any Zuiko from those days is a good piece nowadays... :)
 
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STM

Senior Member
Contrary to what the film "Chicken Little" doom and gloomers say, film is not dead, nor is it dying in certain areas of photography. It has been my experience from participating on photography forums for over the last 12 years or so, many of the doom and gloomers have either never shot film and are basically talking to hear themselves talk, or they were only casual film shooters who never took film photography serious in the first place. If you look at the casual consumer, then I think you could say it is rapidly becoming a thing of the past. But these are usually the kind of people who would have photos from Christmas, Easter and another Christmas on the same roll of film. Not people who are really serious about photography. Digital is very cheap compared to film for them so there is no motivation to use it any more. This is exclusive of the people who still use the Kodak disposable 35mm cameras. If the numbers of disposable cameras you still see in stores like Walmart, Target and the drug stores is any indication, they are apparently still pretty popular.

But amongst many serious photographers and working professionals film is not dead, not by a long shot. I know several working professional who still shoot a lot of film, my self included. Most of it is medium and large format but if Kodak would make T-Max 100 in 100 foot rolls like they do Tri-X, I would still shoot 35mm black and white a lot more than I do. I still shoot my Hasselblad all the time, and for black and white it is still my go to camera. The only time I go to my 35mm cameras is if I have a lens in 35mm that I don't have an equivalent for in 120. There is just something about a medium format print in 11x14 or 16x20 that against which digital just cannot measure up. You could place a 16x20 silver halide print next to an identical digital one and I could spot the digital 100% of the time, with one eye closed and my hand convering the other one. It just has no character compared to a conventional print. Black and white digital has come a long way, but from my 40+ years of film experience, it still has A VERY LONG WAY to go to compete with film when it comes to fine art work. I know a professional photographer here in town who sold all his darkroom equipment when he switched to digital and now he is really kicking himself in the butt when he saw just how short it really falls. I have offered to rent out my darkroom to him as long as he brings his own paper but so far he has not taken me up on it!
 
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Eye-level

Banned
I might buy a sticky for this thread just so we can check and see what film costs as the years go by...

I am giving it 5 years max...and in 3 you will have to send it off to a handful of places to get it processed. IMO.
 

Marcel

Happily retired
Staff member
Super Mod
If only some geek could build a "reasonably priced" digital full frame back for my Hasselblad CM, I'd be a really happy camper.
 
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