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    DxO Optcis Pro / NIK Tools Mashup: Meet DxO PhotoLab

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    DxO Labs Unleashes... PhotoLab

    This is the newest version DxO Optics Pro, but now "turbocharged" with what we once knew as NIK Tools.
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    Re: DxO Optcis Pro / NIK Tools Mashup: Meet DxO PhotoLab

    It's great!!!
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    Re: DxO Optcis Pro / NIK Tools Mashup: Meet DxO PhotoLab

    Of interest to current DxO Optics Pro license holders...

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    Can I upgrade older versions of DxO OpticsPro to DxO PhotoLab for a current customer price?

    Yes, you can. Please log into your online account with us and click on the upgrade link for DxO PhotoLab. The system will walk you through the upgrade process and compute your discounted cost based on the version of DxO OpticsPro you currently own, your location and if any promotional pricing is in effect when you purchase the upgrade to DxO PhotoLab.
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    So that's good news... A new license for PhotoLab will set you back $150 but, I have to say, that seems a LOT of processing horsepower for the money. Possibly a LR CC/Classic replacement some might find attractive?

    EDIT: Seems it costs $69 to upgrade to PhotoLab from a previous version of Optics Pro... That's going to be hard for me to resist.
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    Re: DxO Optcis Pro / NIK Tools Mashup: Meet DxO PhotoLab

    Quote Originally Posted by Horoscope Fish View Post
    Of interest to current DxO Optics Pro license holders...


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    So that's good news... A new license for PhotoLab will set you back $150 but, I have to say, that seems a LOT of processing horsepower for the money. Possibly a LR CC/Classic replacement some might find attractive?

    EDIT: Seems it costs $69 to upgrade to PhotoLab from a previous version of Optics Pro... That's going to be hard for me to resist.
    Would you be able to live without LR/PS with just this program alone?
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    Re: DxO Optcis Pro / NIK Tools Mashup: Meet DxO PhotoLab

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    Would you be able to live without LR/PS with just this program alone?
    Well that's a tough question for me since I don't use LR; my workflow consists of Bridge -> Camera Raw -> Photoshop. Primarily because I prefer having my DAM, separate from my raw converter. LR's greatest strength, as well as its greatest weakness, in my opinion, is the "Libraries" approach it employs to manage image files. If that's how you want to fly, that's great; it's just not how I prefer to do things.

    More to your question I think a hard-core LR user might find not having any DAM functionality confusing/frustrating. If we take Libraries out of the equation then I think PhotoLab could serve admirably as a LR replacement. But that's one mighty big "If".

    PhotoLab will NOT replace Photoshop for me but it could, possibly, replace Camera Raw. PhotoLab will work with .NEF files natively, but I'll have to export to .TIFF in order to continue working in Photoshop. Kind of bummer... I guess.

    I'm going to download a trial version of PhotoLab if I can and give it a whirl... I'm curious how, and how WELL, the U-Point technology is being implemented.

    There's also a big ol' discussion on DP Review on this very topic but I'm not sure how management would feel about me linking to another forum. Searching on "DXO Photolab!" in their Retouching sub-forum will pull it up for you however. It's DP Review, so hopefully you know what you're getting into "over there". *gulp*
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    Re: DxO Optcis Pro / NIK Tools Mashup: Meet DxO PhotoLab

    I use all three (DxO Optics Pro, LR, PS). DxO's ClearView and Prime are very good and IMHO kick LR's butt. PS is a whole different animal, but with the addition of NIK's technologies, I could live without LR, I think. Will give the PhotoLab upgrade a try.
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    Re: DxO Optcis Pro / NIK Tools Mashup: Meet DxO PhotoLab

    I downloaded the free trial of PhotoLab and gave it a whirl. The most important thing I found is this is NOT the mashup of NIK Tools and Optics Pro I, and I think many others, were hoping/thinking it would be. PhotoLab, from what I can tell, is really Optics Pro with U-Point Technology laid over it. In retrospect that makes perfect sense; U-Point is the Awesome Sauce behind Control Points and Control Points are the "crown jewels" of NIK. Control Points are what elevated NIK from just another set of filters you slap on, a la Instagram, et al. to a truly powerful and useful editing tool. I was thinking Photolab was going to be NIK's resuscitation, but ixO seems to have simply incorporated NIK's U-Point Technology and, sadly, nothing else.

    The implementation of CP's is a little different in Photolab, as is masking them, but if you already know how to use positive and negative CP's and how to mask them in NIK, you should have no trouble figuring how to do the same things using PhotoLab. The GUI specifically attached to CP's is better in PhotoLab, I think, with a bigger set of adjustments to choose from, including things like sharpening. The sliders are arranged vertically, like the sliders on a stereo equalizer.

    PhotoLab, to put it succinctly, appears to me to be Optics Pro with Viveza layered on top.

    So, if you are a die-hard lover of NIK Tools, and by that I mean if you turn to it for Silver Efex Pro, Analog Efex, Color Efex, etc., you are NOT going to find those filters in Photolab and you'll probably be disappointed. If you're a die-hard Optics Pro user, you'll probably find the addition of CP's a nice addition to what Optics Pro already does.
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    Re: DxO Optcis Pro / NIK Tools Mashup: Meet DxO PhotoLab

    Quote Originally Posted by Horoscope Fish View Post
    I downloaded the free trial of PhotoLab and gave it a whirl. The most important thing I found is this is NOT the mashup of NIK Tools and Optics Pro I, and I think many others, were hoping/thinking it would be. PhotoLab, from what I can tell, is really Optics Pro with U-Point Technology laid over it. In retrospect that makes perfect sense; U-Point is the Awesome Sauce behind Control Points and Control Points are the "crown jewels" of NIK. Control Points are what elevated NIK from just another set of filters you slap on, a la Instagram, et al. to a truly powerful and useful editing tool. I was thinking Photolab was going to be NIK's resuscitation, but ixO seems to have simply incorporated NIK's U-Point Technology and, sadly, nothing else.

    The implementation of CP's is a little different in Photolab, as is masking them, but if you already know how to use positive and negative CP's and how to mask them in NIK, you should have no trouble figuring how to do the same things using PhotoLab. The GUI specifically attached to CP's is better in PhotoLab, I think, with a bigger set of adjustments to choose from, including things like sharpening. The sliders are arranged vertically, like the sliders on a stereo equalizer.

    PhotoLab, to put it succinctly, appears to me to be Optics Pro with Viveza layered on top.

    So, if you are a die-hard lover of NIK Tools, and by that I mean if you turn to it for Silver Efex Pro, Analog Efex, Color Efex, etc., you are NOT going to find those filters in Photolab and you'll probably be disappointed. If you're a die-hard Optics Pro user, you'll probably find the addition of CP's a nice addition to what Optics Pro already does.
    Thank you for the test report, Paul. That is really informative. I have one additional question. Did you use it as a plugin with photoshop or was it separate?
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    Re: DxO Optcis Pro / NIK Tools Mashup: Meet DxO PhotoLab

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    Thank you for the test report, Paul. That is really informative. I have one additional question. Did you use it as a plugin with photoshop or was it separate?
    I used it stand-alone. PhotoLab integrates with Lightroom as a plug-in, but NOT with Photoshop.
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    Re: DxO Optcis Pro / NIK Tools Mashup: Meet DxO PhotoLab

    Disagree canuck257 disagreed
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    Do we simply have a difference of opinion, or did I report something factually inaccurate?
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