Winds of Change? :: Lightroom CC vs Lightroom Classic ::

Horoscope Fish

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Bikerbrent

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Agreed, this will not sit well with others, myself included. I refuse to rent software from Adobe (or anyone else) and continue to happily use Photoshop CS6 with the NIX plugins. Have never used Lightroom and now see even less reason to do so. If and when I have to retire Photoshop CS6, it looks like Affinity will replace it nicely.
 

lokatz

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I am a big fan of LR and now use it a lot more than PS, because there are a number of things it does much more easily, but I am right with you, Brent: renting software and paying as much for it within 1-2 years as the previous version cost for life is not going to work for me.

Anyone interested in using LR, I strongly recommend buying one of the still-available copies of LR 6 while they are still on the market. Even if it no longer supports your latest (or a future) camera, that is easily fixed with a free DNG converter - you loose nothing from the NEF format.
 

Blacktop

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"Lightroom CC is engineered for the cloud, yes, but it’s also aimed at a different audience than many of the people who currently use Lightroom Classic CC."

Adobe Unveils All-New Cloud-Based Lightroom CC, Rebrands Old Application 'Lightroom Classic'

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:: via Petapixel ::


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My big takeaway from this... There will be NO standalone/perpetual license version of LR v7.0 now or in the future. That's certainly not going to sit well with many.

Not quite sure I completely understand. (not much time to go over it in detail).
So if I have Creative Cloud now, (LR/PS for 9.99/month) will it stay the same as before except now I have other options to choose from as well?
 

Horoscope Fish

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Not quite sure I completely understand. (not much time to go over it in detail).
So if I have Creative Cloud now, (LR/PS for 9.99/month) will it stay the same as before except now I have other options to choose from as well?
As I understand it these are your options, moving forward, as regards what you'll be paying:

  • The Creative Cloud Photography Plan includes Lightroom CC, Lightroom Classic CC, Photoshop CC, Adobe Portfolio, Adobe Spark (unlocking premium features), and 20 GB of cloud storage for $9.99 per month.
  • You can optionally get the Creative Cloud Photography Plan with 1 TB of cloud storage for $19.99 per month. For a limited time, Adobe is charging existing Photography Plan customers $14.99 per month to jump to the 1 TB tier.

Features-wise it sounds like your version of LR will automagically update to the latest version of Lightroom CC. It also sounds like LR CC right now, at this very moment less, uh... feature rich, shall we say, than it's perpetual license version? I'm unclear on that point myself and since I'm not really a LR user I'm having trouble deciphering the details.
 

Woodyg3

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I don't understand the problem many of you have with Creative Cloud.

I pay $120 a year to use Lightroom and Photoshop. That's a bargain. The last time I looked, a stand alone version of Photoshop was in the $500 range.

I can update quickly and easily when new versions are available, at no extra cost. Adobe will not try to offer updates that your computer will not support due to older system software.

I store all my photos on my own drive, and have yet to use the cloud. Some people seem to think you must use the cloud, which is false.

I understand that many other companies offer some great photo editing software. (Although I have yet to find any that I like as much as Lightroom.) Will they be around in a year, in five years? Will they continue to support and update their software? I suspect Adobe will be around in the long run, and I am still pretty pissed off at Apple for discontinuing Aperture about 8 months after I bought it.

Just my 2 cents, FWIW. :)
 

Blacktop

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I don't understand the problem many of you have with Creative Cloud.

I pay $120 a year to use Lightroom and Photoshop. That's a bargain. The last time I looked, a stand alone version of Photoshop was in the $500 range.

I can update quickly and easily when new versions are available, at no extra cost. Adobe will not try to offer updates that your computer will not support due to older system software.

I store all my photos on my own drive, and have yet to use the cloud. Some people seem to think you must use the cloud, which is false.

I understand that many other companies offer some great photo editing software. (Although I have yet to find any that I like as much as Lightroom.) Will they be around in a year, in five years? Will they continue to support and update their software? I suspect Adobe will be around in the long run, and I am still pretty pissed off at Apple for discontinuing Aperture about 8 months after I bought it.

Just my 2 cents, FWIW. :)

i have no problems whatsoever with CC. I've been a very happy user for years now. I just don't really understand how this will affect my current plan and what features I will lose.
 

Woodyg3

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As I understand it these are your options, moving forward, as regards what you'll be paying:



Features-wise it sounds like your version of LR will automagically update to the latest version of Lightroom CC. It also sounds like LR CC right now, at this very moment less, uh... feature rich, shall we say, than it's perpetual license version? I'm unclear on that point myself and since I'm not really a LR user I'm having trouble deciphering the details.

Lightroom Classic CC will have more features than the older version, and will run faster. My understanding is that Lightroom CC is what Adobe calls the phone/tablet versions, and that will certainly continue to have fewer features than the regular computer version. Tony Northrup, who has been beta testing, seems to think that features will continue to be added to the tablet/phone versions.
 

Woodyg3

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i have no problems whatsoever with CC. I've been a very happy user for years now. I just don't really understand how this will affect my current plan and what features I will lose.

No loss of features. Lightroom Classic on your computer will actually work faster and have a couple of new, cool features.
 

lokatz

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Thanks for the link, Prefrosh1. Looking at the explanations Matt K provides in the articles, I guess that means all of us on this forum have become 'classic' now. Usually another term for 'old'. ;)
 

Woodyg3

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I won't be jumping in right away. I will have to upgrade system software, and I want to wait until it looks like everything is running well. (i.e. let others work out the bugs first.)
 
As I understand it these are your options, moving forward, as regards what you'll be paying:



Features-wise it sounds like your version of LR will automagically update to the latest version of Lightroom CC. It also sounds like LR CC right now, at this very moment less, uh... feature rich, shall we say, than it's perpetual license version? I'm unclear on that point myself and since I'm not really a LR user I'm having trouble deciphering the details.


LR CC has more features than the non CC version. That is one way they are selling it. Also "Cloud" is not exactly a good thing to call it. LR and PS are both downloaded to your computer in full. The only thing that happens is that occasionally it will call home to check on the license . IT happens more on the monthly version than the yearly version.

I am a LR and PS user all the time and Adobe CC Photography plan is the way to go. The cost for PS was very high and like many people I would update every two or three year to get the current feature set. This is way cheaper and I always have the latest version.

Just my 2¢ worth
 

Horoscope Fish

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I installed the updates today and everything looks good so far, the sky has not fallen.
I had numerous updates last night for LR, PS, Bridge, ACR... No issues for me either, other than having to re-install a few plug-ins (NIK, DxO, etc.) which is relatively painless, if a tad bit annoying. Still, everything is running smoothly.

All in all I love the CC versions... The fact the college all but pays for my subscription for the complete Adobe Suite of applications doesn't hurt, but even if they didn't I'd still gladly pay for the Photography Plan Adobe offers.

This fracturing of LR into two distinct CC versions, and cutting off of perpetual licenses, I think, is simply Adobe making it clear it's their way or the highway. Many *will* choose the highway, and they're okay with that.
 
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