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  1. #1
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    Rookie photog looking for advice from fanatics

    Hi All!

    Just a brief intro, I love photography. I got my first real camera years ago. I purchased a Nikon D5300, and a 10-24 lens to make up for the cropped sensor.

    It has been a blast to shoot. I have well over 12,000 shutter clicks, and it still works like a charm. I mostly shoot my cars, and real estate from time to time.

    Iím looking to upgrade. My two top pics are the D750, and a Z6. Iíd love to get a Z7 but for my needs (and budget) Iím hoping a Z6 will suffice. I plan to buy the adapter to use my 10-24 and the other stock lens that came with the 5300, I think itís the 18-55.

    My two questions are:

    1. Is the Z6 a true full frame like the D750?
    2. Which would you choose and why?

    TIA!


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    Re: Rookie photog looking for advice from fanatics

    1) Yes

    Why do you want to move to a full frame camera when it sounds like you're quite happy with your APS-C D5300?

    If all you have is a single DX lens (18-55mm), it hardly seems worth the $250 to buy an FTZ adapter to use it on a full frame camera.

    Have you considered the DX Z50? It can be found as part of packages that include two really excellent kit lenses and the FTZ.
    D750, D7500, Z50, D3500, DC-FZ1000 II, DMC-FZ300

  3. #3
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    Re: Rookie photog looking for advice from fanatics

    Quote Originally Posted by bluzman View Post
    1) Yes

    Why do you want to move to a full frame camera when it sounds like you're quite happy with your APS-C D5300?

    If all you have is a single DX lens (18-55mm), it hardly seems worth the $250 to buy an FTZ adapter to use it on a full frame camera.

    Have you considered the DX Z50? It can be found as part of packages that include two really excellent kit lenses and the FTZ.
    This is why I came here!! Rookie photog looking for advice from fanatics

    Iím happy with the 5300. Great question on why I want more. Iíve gotten really really good on post. Iíve watched all the crazy you tube tutorials over the years and have become intermediate Iíd call it on Photoshop. The thirst for the full frame is just that. I can get what I need from the 5300 and Photoshop (although 90% of my adjustments are in Camera Raw), but I know Iím missing that extra bump by not having a full frame sensor.

    So wait, can I use my Nikkor 10-24 directly on the Z6? Donít I need the adapter for it? I assume the glass on the 10-24 is good because I paid almost $1K for it new a while back. I live in the 14-24 range even with the cropped sensor. The only issue I have with my 5300 is that the photos come out a tiny tiny bit blurred if that makes sense. Maybe itís all in my head, and sometimes the effect looks amazing, but I think a full frame will get some detail that I think Iím missing?

    I guess by buying the adapter as a kit I was hoping to salvage the only two lenses I have. Is that sound accurate or is there another option?

    I have not considered the DX Z50. How does it compare quality wise to a D750 or the Z6?


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    Re: Rookie photog looking for advice from fanatics

    Welcome aboard. Enjoy the ride.
    We look forward to seeing more posts and samples of your work.

    No you cannot use the 10-24 directly, you will need the adapter. What is the second lens you own. Is it the 18-55 bluzman mentioned? If so they are both DX lenses and would both require the adapter to fit a Z6 or Z7. Also, being DX lenses, they will not do justice to either of these cameras. I would really recommend the Z50, or get a Z6 with a good Z lens.
    Brent: Poway, CA
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    Re: Rookie photog looking for advice from fanatics

    Quote Originally Posted by Bikerbrent View Post
    Welcome aboard. Enjoy the ride.
    We look forward to seeing more posts and samples of your work.

    No you cannot use the 10-24 directly, you will need the adapter. What is the second lens you own. Is it the 18-55 bluzman mentioned? If so they are both DX lenses and would both require the adapter to fit a Z6 or Z7. Also, being DX lenses, they will not do justice to either of these cameras. I would really recommend the Z50, or get a Z6 with a good Z lens.
    This is all new to me, and thank you for the reply and the kind welcome!

    Yes, the second lens is the 18-55 that came with the D5300.

    How would you rate the D750 vs Z6 vs Z50? Itís probably impossible to answer in one post, but which would you say is arguably the best as far as picture quality?


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    Re: Rookie photog looking for advice from fanatics

    Hi and welcome. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any member who has both a z6 and a D750. @Danno has the z6 along with a D700 so hopefully he can help shed some light on your questions.

    I have a D750 which is an absolutely amazing camera. One of its benefits is having 2 card slots compared with only one card slot for the z6. If you are taking photos that you absolutely can't risk missing, 2 cards offer the option of one being a backup. Memory card failures seldom happen though. If you are into wildlife or sports (lots of moving subjects), then a DSLR might be a better choice. But there are advantages to the z6 that the D750 doesn't offer. Since I don't have a z6 and am not too knowledgeable about its features, it would be better to hear from someone like Danno who raves about his! That said, if moving subjects really isn't that important, most likely a z6 would be the way to go with all the new features the mirrorless cameras offer.
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    Re: Rookie photog looking for advice from fanatics

    Remember that going to full frame (FF) as opposed to DX requires new lens to take advantage of the sensor. As you are not deep in to F mount glass I think the way forward is Z mount. As for image quality the Z6 has better color depth and low light performance, D750 slightly better dynamic range. But they are close.

    Another area you should check is lens availability, the current Z wide angle zoom is?

    And just to muddy the waters have you looked at the Z5? FF, dual card slots and IBIS as you are coming from a 5300 you would be accustom to the lack of a top display.

    If you type D750 vs Z6 or D750 vs Z5 into your search engine there are sites that allow you to compare specs. It is a question of what will work best for you and your pocketbook.

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    Re: Rookie photog looking for advice from fanatics

    Quote Originally Posted by TheVazha View Post
    Hi All!

    Just a brief intro, I love photography. I got my first real camera years ago. I purchased a Nikon D5300, and a 10-24 lens to make up for the cropped sensor.

    It has been a blast to shoot. I have well over 12,000 shutter clicks, and it still works like a charm. I mostly shoot my cars, and real estate from time to time.

    I’m looking to upgrade. My two top pics are the D750, and a Z6. I’d love to get a Z7 but for my needs (and budget) I’m hoping a Z6 will suffice. I plan to buy the adapter to use my 10-24 and the other stock lens that came with the 5300, I think it’s the 18-55.

    My two questions are:

    1. Is the Z6 a true full frame like the D750?
    2. Which would you choose and why?

    TIA!


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    Without a question I would go with the Z6. As Needa mentioned going from a cropped sensor to a full frame body will require upgrades in lenses. The Z6 is a FF body as is the Z5 and Z7 and the Z6II and Z7II. You can use your current lenses with FTZ adapter, but they will operate as crop sensor on the full frame bodies.

    The Z Glass is amazing. I would recommend the Z6 with the 24-70 f4 kit and the FTZ adapter if you wish to use your old DX lenses. The 24-70 is not a typical kit lens. It is the S lens which is the designation for Nikon Z bodies the best lenses.

    I do not think you would be disappointed with the Z6. I am not. I shoot landscapes, architecture, events at my church, car shows and about everything else with it. I am not a big birds in flight guy. The key with the Z6 and all the Z bodies is that they are a bit different from the DSLRS that Nikon makes. Not a lot different, but they do have a learning curve with the autofocus. Menus and such are very similar.

    I was going to go with the 850 when I tried out a Z6. Some folks think I was crazy, but I fell in love with the Z6 and am not looking back. I have a good bit of glass not and am very pleased.
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  9. #9
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    Re: Rookie photog looking for advice from fanatics

    Quote Originally Posted by hark View Post
    Hi and welcome. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any member who has both a z6 and a D750. has the z6 along with a D700 so hopefully he can help shed some light on your questions. <br>
    <br>
    I have a D750 which is an absolutely amazing camera. One of its benefits is having 2 card slots compared with only one card slot for the z6. If you are taking photos that you absolutely can't risk missing, 2 cards offer the option of one being a backup. Memory card failures seldom happen though. If you are into wildlife or sports (lots of moving subjects), then a DSLR might be a better choice. But there are advantages to the z6 that the D750 doesn't offer. Since I don't have a z6 and am not too knowledgeable about its features, it would be better to hear from someone like Danno who raves about his! That said, if moving subjects really isn't that important, most likely a z6 would be the way to go with all the new features the mirrorless cameras offer.
    <br>
    <br>
    And correct me if I'm wrong, but if I go D750 (I've wanted one from the day I bought my 5300), I can use my current lenses direct? <br>
    <br>
    Quote Originally Posted by Needa View Post
    Remember that going to full frame (FF) as opposed to DX requires new lens to take advantage of the sensor. As you are not deep in to F mount glass I think the way forward is Z mount. As for image quality the Z6 has better color depth and low light performance, D750 slightly better dynamic range. But they are close.<br>
    <br>
    Another area you should check is lens availability, the current Z wide angle zoom is?<br>
    <br>
    And just to muddy the waters have you looked at the Z5? FF, dual card slots and IBIS as you are coming from a 5300 you would be accustom to the lack of a top display. <br>
    <br>
    If you type D750 vs Z6 or D750 vs Z5 into your search engine there are sites that allow you to compare specs. It is a question of what will work best for you and your pocketbook.
    <br>
    <br>
    So I was under the understanding that the Z6 was better for action shots? One of the driving forces is my babies. I cant get them to sit still, ever, and I thought having a camera that better performs with moving images was the way to go..<br>
    <br>
    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Without a question I would go with the Z6. As Needa mentioned going from a cropped sensor to a full frame body will require upgrades in lenses. The Z6 is a FF body as is the Z5 and Z7 and the Z6II and Z7II. You can use your current lenses with FTZ adapter, but they will operate as crop sensor on the full frame bodies. <br>
    <br>
    The Z Glass is amazing. I would recommend the Z6 with the 24-70 f4 kit and the FTZ adapter if you wish to use your old DX lenses. The 24-70 is not a typical kit lens. It is the S lens which is the designation for Nikon Z bodies the best lenses. <br>
    <br>
    I do not think you would be disappointed with the Z6. I am not. I shoot landscapes, architecture, events at my church, car shows and about everything else with it. I am not a big birds in flight guy. The key with the Z6 and all the Z bodies is that they are a bit different from the DSLRS that Nikon makes. Not a lot different, but they do have a learning curve with the autofocus. Menus and such are very similar. <br>
    <br>
    I was going to go with the 850 when I tried out a Z6. Some folks think I was crazy, but I fell in love with the Z6 and am not looking back. I have a good bit of glass not and am very pleased.
    <br>
    <br>
    I saw the kit with the 24-70, it's about $2500. I was looking at D750's, and they have a few kits that are around $2K with multiple lenses. Are these any good? Being offered on Amazon with D750: <strong><strong><font size="2">24-120mm VRand 70-300mm </font></strong></strong><br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Are these good lenses? If I go this route I save $500 and get to use my old lenses correct?<br>
    <br>
    Two more questions: <br>
    <br>
    1. If I go the Z route, can I sell my D5300 and lenses here? What do you guys think they're worth? It would be great to recoup some of the Z6 cost. <br>
    <br>
    2. I shoot real estate from time to time. I love how the 10-24 can make a tiny guest bedroom look like the Taj Mahal. Can I achieve this with the 24-70 kit on the Z6? Is there good wide angle glass for the Z6 I can consider? And this is the most important question: Does my existing 10-24 work as a full frame lens on a D750? <br>
    <br>
    I'm so torn. I know the Z6 is probably the better camera, it sounds like it's the future. But For my needs (real estate and my kids) the D750 will suffice. I just feel like if I'm ready to spend $2K+ I should get something that will be relevant in the years to come..

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    Re: Rookie photog looking for advice from fanatics

    What a disaster that reply was lol
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