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  1. #11
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    Re: Upgrade head ache.....

    my lens are:

    AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR

    AF-P DX NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-6.3G ED VR

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  2. #12
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    Re: Upgrade head ache.....

    I use the D500 and 200-500 for wildlife, and am extremely happy. The D500 has fast and accurate autofocus with focus points all across the screen. 10 fps is great for birds in flight, running mammals, etc. XQD cards are not cheap, but they are robust and fast. I use the second card slot for overflow, which has saved me from losing shots at times. I still use my D7200 for backup, macro, landscapes, etc. It's a great camera, too, just not as much of a "hot rod" as the D500.
    Woody Green

    Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Can't Lose

    D500, D7200, D7100, D70

  3. #13
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    Re: Upgrade head ache.....

    In case you need another nudge... D500 would be my choice, hands down...

    "The natural man must know in order to believe; The spiritual man must believe in order to know. " ~ Aiden Wilson Tozer ~ "The Dwelling Place of God"

    Nikon Z 6 Nikon D7200 w/Grip, Nikon D700 w/Grip, AF-S Nikkor 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR, Nikon 14-24 f/2.8, Nikkor 50mm/1.8G, Tamron 28-75, Tamron 70-200 F/2.8
    Yongnuo Speedlight YN568EX, Vanguard ALTA Pro 264AB Tripod, Vanguard
    SBH-100 ball head Beike Gimbal Head, ARCA Swiss B1 ball head


  4. #14
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    Re: Upgrade head ache.....

    would you advise upgrading the 300 lens to the 2.8 faster one?

  5. #15
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    Re: Upgrade head ache.....

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveNewman View Post
    would you advise upgrading the 300 lens to the 2.8 faster one?
    Definitely. The D500 will not show it's full capabilities with the AF-P DX NIKKOR 70-300mm f/4.5-6.3G ED VR. And since you have the 200-300mm range nicely covered with your 200-500m lens, I would suggest one of the 70-200mm f2.8 lenses to due the D500 justice.
    Brent: Poway, CA
    D7200, D200, F100
    Tokina 12-24mm
    Nikon 18-200mm
    Tokina 28-70mm f2.6-2.8
    Nikon 80-200mm f2.8
    Sigma 150-600mm
    Nikon 50 AF f1.8
    Tokina 100mm f2.8 Macro
    Nikon SB800

  6. #16
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    Re: Upgrade head ache.....

    ive just looked, you cant get a faster 70-300 lens in a 2.8 its looks like its the 70-200 2.8 lens..

    am i right?

    this one? Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8E FL ED VR Zoom Lens
    Last edited by DaveNewman; 08-23-2019 at 07:37 AM.

  7. #17
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    Re: Upgrade head ache.....

    Like I said above, any of the Nikon 70-200's would be an improvement over the 70-300. The latest version is indeed the E, but I think any of them, the VR 1 or the VR 2 or the E, would be an improvement. By reputation, the 70-300 AFP is better than the 70-300 AFS in terms of focusing speed though.

    And you should really evaluate what's important for you, for your preferred style and your aspirations. I was shooting in a corner with my lens wide open, 2.8. The guy who came along and started shooting next to me, I know he shoots stopped way down. f/8. He doesn't care about shallow DOF and subject isolation. For him, the fast aperture of a 2.8 lens wouldn't really matter. What matters for you?

    And, yes, there is a 300/2.8 zoom lens. The Sigma 120-300/2.8. It's about $3000. There is also the Sigma 50-100/1.8. If you're working with subjects that are closer to you, that could be a nice lens. That extra stop f/2 from f/2.8 can be really useful, depending on what you are shooting.

    Still, I think the 70-200/2.8 can be a photographer's best friend. I do 90% of my work with mine. Music, motorsports, portraits, events.

  8. #18
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    Re: Upgrade head ache.....

    The lens you listed is the latest and greatest 70-200 from Nikon. There are also used 70-200 VR1 and VRIIs to choose from. Tamron's latest 70-200mm 2.8 G2 is a very good lens.

    I have the Sigma 120-300mm 2.8 mentioned above. It's a great lens but it weighs nearly 7.5 lbs.
    Last edited by Andy W; 08-23-2019 at 01:02 PM.
    D810; D7200; AF-S 14-24mm f/2.8G ED; AF-S 24-120mm f/4G ED VR; Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 Sport; Sigma 2X Teleconverter;
    AF-S 50mm f/1.8G; AF-S 85mm f/1.8G - Old non-AF; 105mm f/2.5; 28mm f/2.8 - Godox V860II & AD200

  9. #19
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    Re: Upgrade head ache.....

    cant afford that 70-200 after checking the costs, therefore i will be sticking with the lens i have and the d500 when i upgrade

  10. #20
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    Re: Upgrade head ache.....

    The older 70-200 VR usually referred to as the VR1 only after the VR2 came out is build well, is fast and in the center rather sharp but its weakness was soft corners in Fx but no problem with the smaller image circle of Dx so to save money a used VR1 is a great buy, since they were so well made they will still be in good shape and save you $1500-2000. On the D500, its field of view is the same as a 300mm so it has enough reach for most wildlife unless you are after small birds or insects 50 meters away. It vibration reduction is good so a lot of shots can be made without a tripod and relatively slow shutter if the light is low.
    A new alternative is the 70-300 AFP which has a fast pulse motor and very good optics compared to all prior versions of the 70-300. For not as much weight or size as expected for a 300mm lens, the Nikon 300mm E f4 pf ed vr is a miracle of tech with Fresnel lens so its normally very heavy objective lens is a fraction of the weight and length of any 300 f/4....and sharper. An east to carry small very sharp fast 300 that does not need a tripod means it is unique in the industry. There is a 500mm version, that on a Dx body has the same field of view as a 750mm lens is out now but demand is far outstripping supply so they are hard to find in some markets but in Europe they seem to be instock in many stores. I rented the 300FP and on my D850 and later on the Z6, it performed beautifully and weighed less than my 70-200 and was shorter
    I do not shoot wildlife much or sports but a 70-200 2.8 is my most used lens, that and 24-70.2.8 of f/4 out of 15 Nikkor fast lenses and a few Sigma and a very nice Tamron 15-30 2.8 G2. As a result of very high satisfaction with the Tamron G2, I would also have no hesitation in recommending that also and it being 1/2 the price of a Nikon, if you want new with warranty, check it out.

    Regarding the body, in DX, which has advantages in wildlife and sports, there is no DSLR on the planet that is a competitor to the D500. Canon has their 7DII but it never came close and rumor is that it is not being replaced with a newer model, Canon effectively conceding the Dx sport and Wildlife market to Nikon. The only other competing camera is the Sony a9 which has very good AF but is not built anywhere near what outdoorsmen expect of their rugged reliable weather resistant wildlands camera. It also suffered from the worst support and repair facility record in the industry.
    A big plus of the D500 is also the same thing that many reviewers(who are pushing other cameras for which they get ample revenue) is used of the only pro card system out and the ability to use future releases of the CF Express cards with simply a firmware update. XQD is orders of magnitude more reliable than consumer based SD card system.
    For those with a more all round photography style, the Fx Z6 is better in most uses, with better low light IQ, better AF in low light, better VF by far, smaller, lighter and access to the low cost and industry topping S lenses. For video hybrid shooters, it is a no brainer with the best video of any FX cameras, and any F mount lens investment is protected by using the FTZ adaptor.

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